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Did Dan Mullen know the whole time?

Posted on 7/24/17 at 7:56 am
Posted by Big4Dawg
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 7:56 am
Posted by anc
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 7:58 am to
One of the articles I read yesterday said that every other SEC coach knew and called him "Jimmy Swag"
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:05 am to
These coaches are out recruiting the same kids, talking with the same parents and high school coaches, so I'm sure there must have been some talk.

The only way it could've gone on this long is that the folks who were running this for ole miss had to selectively choose their targets, which is what I've said all along. Push it toward the athletes and parents with questionable character to begin with. The ones who will either sign or go along for the ride and kee their mouths shut.

The end result was they got some but couldn't get enough to build the depth they needed to have a championship team. Maybe that was their downfall, they ventured outside their target market and got burned.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:12 am to
Everybody not wearing red & blue glasses knew.

CHF didn't change on Thursday,7/20/2017. He was/is the same guy that he's always been. PLENTY of people have wondered at OMs blind devotion to CHF in the past 5 years, but I challenge you to find 1 article from a reb source that even questioned CHF before Thursday. But now they want to play the victim card.

Dan Mullen beat OM and stood in the locker room and proclaimed "we're never losing to that team again"

MSU put up the billboards.

It all was too much for a group who prides themselves in an image of being better than others. They sold their souls to win a few football games and everybody knew it
Posted by Herman Frisco
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:14 am to
After 4 or 5 years I would wager the coaches in the SEC knew he was dirty. You can't recruit the same players and not know.
We had a player from Mississippi who was a lock until signing day. Then flipped. Saban knew there was a reason for the flip. So yes , the coaches had to know he was crooked.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:19 am to
Tunsil and Treadwell were both on the take... Mark Richt knew when he went to OM that something was fishy
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 8:20 am
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:24 am to
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We had a player from Mississippi who was a lock until signing day.


Which one? Simmons?
Posted by DingLeeBerry
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:29 am to
Posted by phil4bama
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:43 am to
quote:

quote:
We had a player from Mississippi who was a lock until signing day.


Which one? Simmons?


I always heard this said about Connor, the safety.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:45 am to
Leo Lewis probably told him.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17713 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:47 am to
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I always heard this said about Connor, the safety.


Connor was 100% always going to OM. Not saying it was his choice, but he was always going to OM
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:54 am to
I have forgotten the players name, but I remember Saban having an epic meltdown. There were whispers about this a while. And people wondering how Bama missed on him. I think Saban knew what happened. This happened about the time the NCAA rumors started to heat up.

But we were not the only school this happened to.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 8:58 am
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:01 am to
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I have forgotten the players name, but I remember Saban having an epic meltdown. There were whispers about this a while. And people wondering how Bama missed on him. I think Saban knew what happened. This happened about the time the NCAA rumors started to heat up.


Bobby Massie was one of the first eye-opening flips that Om pulled.
I think they flipped him from Bama, but I think he was pre-Freeze.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 9:02 am
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:07 am to
didn't bo Scarbrough or someone that eventually signed with Bama but was recruited by OM get suspended for some unknown reason? I was thinking that dude or another got paid by OM and saban found out so he suspended him.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:25 am to
I think it was his way of promoting his program not a shot at HF but I will say he is telling the truth there. Look Christian men are tempted just like non Christian men so I don't get on here and judge individuals. That's not to say there is not a right and wrong or that I'm excusing his alleged behavior as far as escorts go. Believe it or not his cheating bothers me more than a possible affair only because an affair can happen in an instant. If he was cheating he knew and continued the behavior. I hope he and his wife can reconcile.
Posted by SwaggerVance
Behind enemy lines
Member since Oct 2014
1741 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:41 am to
A lot of people have known escorts were being used at Ole Miss. Their narrative now is to have you believe they were for Hugh's personal use and not for recruiting purposes.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30165 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:53 am to
quote:

After 4 or 5 years I would wager the coaches in the SEC knew he was dirty. You can't recruit the same players and not know.
We had a player from Mississippi who was a lock until signing day. Then flipped. Saban knew there was a reason for the flip. So yes , the coaches had to know he was crooked.

Ha! Coaches outside the SEC knew Freeze was playing dirty. That's why the NCAA came down so hard and the SEC office basically refused to even make an attempt to defend OM or stand behind them during the investigation.

I'd think heavy hitters like Clemson, Michigan, and OSU all contributed a spike in the OM coffin.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:57 am to
I don't think you pull up in a press conference like this if you don't know exactly what's going on and about to go down...

Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30165 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:57 am to
quote:

didn't bo Scarbrough or someone that eventually signed with Bama but was recruited by OM get suspended for some unknown reason? I was thinking that dude or another got paid by OM and saban found out so he suspended him.


Word is the Bo Scarbrough suspension was due to his interactions with Clemson, not OleMiss. That's why the Bo never made an appearance in the NOA's and why Bo didn't have to participate in the investigation/interviews with the NCAA.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:57 am to
quote:

I'd think heavy hitters like Clemson, Michigan, and OSU all contributed a spike in the OM coffin.


Obligatory frick Clemson.

And what goes around, comes around. Clemson had a new recruit tweeting about how he's "never made so much money in his life" just a few days ago. The tweet has since been deleted.
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