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Despite popular belief, Alabama doesn't have largest football staff

Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:06 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:06 pm
The NCAA is doing a "holistic" look at NCAA football staff sizes. Here's how the SEC shakes out.

1. Georgia 42
2. Auburn 41
3. Arkansas 36
4. South Carolina 34
5. Florida 33
6. Mississippi State 32
7. Alabama 31
8. Mississippi 31
9. Missouri 31
10. LSU 27
11. Kentucky 26
12. Vanderbilt 25
13. Tennessee 18

Texas A&M N/A

LINK

Prior to this NCAA study, Alabama was said to have 97.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 4:09 pm
Posted by Lordofwrath88
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:07 pm to
Auburn University

Doing less with more
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:08 pm to
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Texas A&M N/A
They couldn't decide whether to include the cheer boys that give sexual players to the aggiest of Aggie football players as part of the staff or not.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:09 pm to
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2. Auburn 41


Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:10 pm to
It never ends
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:10 pm to
But, but, but "shadow staff!!!!"

Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:13 pm to
You are high off your arse if you think i'm gonna believe that
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:15 pm to
Why?
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:18 pm to
That link is very selective, leaving out some key quotes that are included in other articles. Such as this one from CBS Sports:

quote:

Now for some perspective: Notre Dame's number – obtained via a preliminary look at the NCAA's next big dig down on outsized college football ambitions -- should definitely be taken with a grain of salt.
"Six or seven grains of salt," said Bob Bowlsby


quote:

Alabama is credited with a total staff size of 31. According to the survey, that would tie Missouri and Ole Miss for sixth in the SEC and tie for 28th nationally.
The Crimson Tide are credited with just one strength and conditioning staff member. A quick check of Alabama's own website shows the program employs the NCAA maximum five strength coaches.


Obviously this survey is not very well put together. They underestimated Bama's S&C department by 400%.



Posted by BIGJLAW
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:18 pm to
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You are high off your arse if you think i'm gonna believe that

Never to yield cult member?
Posted by sportsfreak1989s
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:21 pm to
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However, the NCAA told CBS Sports the methodology to measure the staff sizes of 127 FBS schools in 2016 came from mere website research.


Seems legit
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:21 pm to
Wrangling over 5-10 positions that should or should not count is a far cry from claiming Alabama has nearly 100 staff members.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:24 pm to
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Wrangling over 5-10 positions that should or should not count is a far cry from claiming Alabama has nearly 100 staff members.


No one knows what the number is. It may be 35... it may be 100.

But if you are basing your opinion on a survey that credited Bama with 1 S&C coach when they have 5, you are obviously putting stock into something that is wildly inaccurate. If they missed 400% of the S&C coaches, how many other unofficial coaches / ops guys did they also miss?

Bottom line is that this survey is completely useless.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

However, the NCAA told CBS Sports the methodology to measure the staff sizes of 127 FBS schools in 2016 came from mere website research.


Everyone knows Nick Saban makes sure all of his behind the scenes helpers are listed on the official athletic website. Of course he makes sure it stays up to date so that everyone in the general public knows his business.
Posted by Arksulli
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:28 pm to
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But if you are basing your opinion on a survey that credited Bama with 1 S&C coach when they have 5, you are obviously putting stock into something that is wildly inaccurate. If they missed 400% of the S&C coaches, how many other unofficial coaches / ops guys did they also miss?


A 400% margin of error does seem a bit... flawed... for a survey.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:31 pm to
Frankly, I'm not too worried rather it's 35 or 100. Whatever works. But some people get really worked up over the "shadow staff".
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:31 pm to
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If they missed 400% of the S&C coaches,


People on this website need to understand how percentages work. They 'missed' 80% of the S&C coaches if, in fact, they have 5 and only reported 1. As in 5 exist, they 'missed' 4, 4 out of 5 is 80%.

You can't 'miss' 400% of something. Once you miss 100% of something you have missed it all, entirely. You could say that the S&C staff that was not reported represented a 400% increase over what was reported.

With that said, I hope Bama actually has 200 people on its support staff so we can keep hearing all the whining from these poor, pitiful schools (in the SEC mind you) who can't afford to keep up with mean ol' Bama
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 4:34 pm
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:34 pm to
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A quick check of Alabama's own website shows the program employs the NCAA maximum five strength coaches.


No. It doesn't.

Alabama's Own Website Shows One Strength and Conditioning Coach
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

You can't 'miss' 400% of something.


Fine. Then say that Bama has 400% more S&C coaches than this survey credited them with. The survey said 1 S&C coach. Bama's on website says 5.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75837 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:40 pm to
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Bama's on website says 5.


Nope.
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