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re: Dana Holgorsen: Every Power 5 conference should play a nine game conference schedule

Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:18 pm to
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You've had 1 OOC road game since 2011.


We've played Michigan, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Southern Cal and Florida State since 2011. I'm completely comfortable with the challenges we present ourselves with out of conference.

But please, continue pretending playing a semi home game on the Flats every 2 years is somehow a bigger challenge than playing USC or Florida State at a neutral site.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 9:27 pm
Posted by southernboisb
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:22 pm to
16 teams with pods! Pair up 2 4-team pods each season & you'll play everybody in 3 years/full rotation in 6. Each 2 pod combination will be a division for that year (NOBODY said we had to keep the same teams - just the same NUMBER of teams).
This would really make the SECCG interesting!

year 1: Pods AB winner vrs. Pods CD winner
year 2: Pods AC winner vrs. Pods BD winner
year 3: Pods AD winner vrs. Pods BC winner

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:24 pm to
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16 teams with pods! Pair up 2 4-team pods each season & you'll play everybody in 3 years/full rotation in 6. Each 2 pod combination will be a division for that year (NOBODY said we had to keep the same teams - just the same NUMBER of teams). This would really make the SECCG interesting! year 1: Pods AB winner vrs. Pods CD winner year 2: Pods AC winner vrs. Pods BD winner year 3: Pods AD winner vrs. Pods BC winner


Yea, one of those pod plans seems to me to be by far the best idea. But, can't imagine that will be happening anytime soon.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:28 pm to
Quit circle jetting each other . UGA does the permanent rival home and home. UGA does the neutral site games. UGA does the home and homes with Note Dame, Clemson, Oklahoma State, etc..

Tell Saban to quit talking and do more about his own scheduling.
Posted by southernboisb
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:29 pm to
HOW can you use the "SEC too tough" line when you increase the conference almost 20%, you DIDN'T think how scheduling would suffer & not increase the conf. games???
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:29 pm to
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UGA does the permanent rival home and home. UGA does the neutral site games. UGA does the home and homes with Note Dame, Clemson, Oklahoma State, etc..


Wow, great, awesome. Nobody is telling you your schedule sucks. You are the one talking about how somebody is "scared" of road stadiums when they routinely schedule Top 10 teams 75% of seasons at neutral sites and have lost 2 road games in 5+ seasons in one of the toughest leagues in America.

Make an argument against the subject at hand like Crown has instead of going off on some ridiculous tangent that doesn't make sense.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 9:31 pm
Posted by southernboisb
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:31 pm to
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thelawnwranglers
Dana Holgorsen: Every Power 5 conference should play a nine game conference schedule
Are we could just give up perm rivals


NOPE! & 4 teams in the SEC West should get annual P5 OOC rivals!
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:34 pm to
Why for the love of football does anyone want less football?

9 conference games scraps 7 actual physical football games fron ever being played each season.

That is obviously a home game for Bama because they never schedule 2 power 5 OOC opponents in a single year. That is revenue for the school, the vendors, the restaurants and hotels. That is also revenue for the TV contracts.

You are physically asking the conference to control more of your scheduling (how long ago was it that Bama felt like they were being slighted by the conference with bye weeks)?

You are asking the conference as a whole to make less money. Seriously. Some of the Bama grads must have gone to business school.

And for what? So you can play Missouri and Vandy more often?
So we can hurt strength of schedule by having rematches in the conference championship game (ask Auburn about beating Tennessee twice and getting snubbed because their strength of schedule worsened).

If you want to play Missouri more often, there are better ways to go about it without taking money out of the mouths who need home games in tuscaloosa.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 10:09 pm
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:37 pm to
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It's cool to play a non-GT OOC game at least sometimes.

We can't help it if your biggest rival pussyed out of the SEC.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:37 pm to
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Make an argument against the subject at hand like Crown has instead of going off on some ridiculous tangent that doesn't make sense.


Dipshit. I made the argument on a prior page. But no one has a response to making less money, having fewer home games, fewer televised games on saturday, and having rematches in the CCG.

Instead, you ignore the fact that you don't schedule the conference away games (that you often win). You do avoid scheduling at OOC away games, though. That is what I get 8 responses on.

Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:38 pm to
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KingSlayer
Dana Holgorsen: Every Power 5 conference should play a nine game conference schedule

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Yea, we just schedule Southern Cal and Florida State at neutral sites like a bunch of pvssies.



The fact that Alabama schedules one really good Power 5 team out of conference a year isn't special. Little old South Carolina plays Clemson every year and pretty often we play a second Power 5 school in a year. Georgia does the same. Florida often does the same as well. No idea why Alabama feels they need a 10 game conference schedule to do the same thing a lot of us already do.


Hate to burst your bubble, but how many of those schools does Florida LEAVE the Sunshine State to play?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:42 pm to
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That is obviously a home game for Bama because they never schedule 2 OOC opponents in a single year


We actually schedule 4 OOC opponents a year. All 14 SEC teams do. It's incredible.

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That is obviously a home game for Bama because they never schedule 2 OOC opponents in a single year. That is revenue for the school, the vendors, the restaurants and hotels. That is also revenue for the TV contracts.

You are physically asking the conference to control more of your scheduling (how long ago was it that Bama felt like they were being slighted by the conference with bye weeks)?

You are asking the conference as a whole to make less money. Seriously. Some of the Bama grads must have gone to business school.





We made $5M for playing Florida State at a neutral site as opposed to paying Colorado State $1.2M.

The trade off of 1 home game every 2 years for that extra home game being Georgia/Florida/South Carolina instead of UTEP/Arkansas St/Kent State is not a bad deal.

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And for what? So you can play Missouri and Vandy more often?


So we can play teams in our league more than 1 time every 5 years, yea.

Here are the last times we played other SEC East teams at home
- Missouri, never
- Georgia, 2007 (10 years)
- South Carolina, 2009 (8 years)
- Vanderbilt, 2012 (5 years)
- Florida, 2014 (3 years)
- Kentucky, 2016 (1 year)

We haven't played Georgia in Tuscaloosa since I was a 22 year old senior in college. I'm 32 now. That's ridiculous.

I like playing other league teams home and away. I don't really understand the point of having a league if we never play 1/4 of the teams but are forced to play Arkansas and Texas A&M every season. It's stupid.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 9:49 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:46 pm to
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But no one has a response to making less money, having fewer home games, fewer televised games on saturday, and having rematches in the CCG.


- We make $5M on neutral site games
- You have 1 fewer home game every 2 years but replace a shite home game (1AA game) with a conference home game. The difference is pretty damn negligible all things considered
- How are fewer games televised? All SEC games are televised. We are all still playing 12 games a season and all of them will be televised.
- We already have rematches in the SECCG sometimes. What the hell does that matter? Maybe we should just never play eachother at all until the championship game to ensure we don't have any rematches

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Instead, you ignore the fact that you don't schedule the conference away games (that you often win).


Newsflash, we often win all of the games we play. We win most of our home games. We win most of our road games. We win most of our neutral site games.

We're 70-5 in regular season games since 2011.
We're 6-0 in neutral site regular season games since 2011.
We're 22-2 in road games since 2011.
We're 42-3 in home games since 2011.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 9:48 pm
Posted by KingSlayer
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:47 pm to
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Hate to burst your bubble, but how many of those schools does Florida LEAVE the Sunshine State to play?


That's a different argument. I'm certainly no Florida fan, but they still play 2 Power 5 teams OOC some years.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:48 pm to
I do. Unless by some miracle, I think B12 is on life-support.

Also, I see another wave of conference growth.


&, just to make you go "hmmmm"....WHY didn't the SEC create the SEC rotation out FURTHER than 2025 (a full H/A rotation with the other 6 non-cross-div. rival teams) unless they're expecting a change to happen by then?
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:52 pm to
Would you rather watch an Alabama/Missouri game or Alabama/Citadel & Mizzouri/Furman cupcakes that we fans complain about the lack of "big games"?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:54 pm to
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Would you rather watch an Alabama/Missouri game or Alabama/Citadel & Mizzouri/Furman cupcakes that we fans complain about the lack of "big games"?


And get to play everyone from the other division at home once in every players career.

I totally understand the apprehension from teams that already basically have 9 game rock solid schedules like UGA, USC, Florida and UK. Whatever is done has to be done with respect to their situations in an equitable fashion.

I just don't understand totally being opposed to playing another SEC game and dropping a shitebag game against Western Carolina or Samford.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 9:55 pm
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:02 pm to
I'm on your side that the # conf. games SHOULD increase.....mostly because the conf. grew ~20% with TA&M & Mizz..

As I stated before, I don't know why the SEC DIDN'T consider that BEFORE the Aggies & Tigers joined us.

Yet, I do understand the 4 SEC East schools who are tied to ACC OOC games too. My wish is that EVERYBODY have 1 perm. OOC team....which then nullifies that argument & any scheduling discussions can be had on a level field.


Which also ties to my wanting ALL P5 conferences to be set up identically with # teams/scheduling so that when it comes to "who's better?".....it's answered on the field!
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:04 pm to
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I'm on your side that the # conf. games SHOULD increase.....mostly because the conf. grew ~20% with TA&M & Mizz.. As I stated before, I don't know why the SEC DIDN'T consider that BEFORE the Aggies & Tigers joined us. Yet, I do understand the 4 SEC East schools who are tied to ACC OOC games too. My wish is that EVERYBODY have 1 perm. OOC team....which then nullifies that argument & any scheduling discussions can be had on a level field. Which also ties to my wanting ALL P5 conferences to be set up identically with # teams/scheduling so that when it comes to "who's better?".....it's answered on the field!


I think the best idea would be 9 SEC Games + 2 P5 games minimum OOC. That way the East teams could do their rival + 1 other and they'd know that everyone else would too.

Of course, that would be 11 P5 games every season for every school, and there is no chance in hell enough schools are going to be in for that. Especially if other leagues aren't.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:10 pm to
True.

But the catch the UGA fans (like me) have is that 4 schools are tied to a specific team for 1 of those games while the other 10 SEC teams can schedule ANYBODY for both P5 requirements. Say you choose USC & FSU for 2018. We'ld have GT & ________. Yes, it does meet the P5 test, but we only get a 50% chance of a big name school.

Understand that line of debate?
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 10:11 pm
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