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College coaching has a rule, and it explains Butch and Bert.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:32 pm
Once a successful coach leaves involuntarily or is fired, a school will endure 2 unsuccessful coaches or 10 years in the wilderness, at a minimum. There is no maximum time limit to their suffering.
There are no exceptions to this rule, and unsuccessful is defined by a fanbase's expectations. It is a vengeance carried down by the football gods for losing faith, as the Israelites did in the god of Abraham. Was this rule always applicable? Maybe not, but evidence suggests it is now.
Let's look at some examples to illustrate the point.
Phil Fulmer - Won an NC at UT, coached until 2008. Was fired 1 year after a ten win season. The gods looked with displeasure at this, and UT was slapped with The Rule. The Rule says 2 unsuccessful coaches, or 10 years, minimum. You could say Kiffin counted, even if he only coached one year. But UT hasn't met the 10 year minimum. That means Butch will probably be fired, as UT is not allowed to be successful until 2018.
Bobby Petrino - Fired because he had sex in 2011. He was only 3 years into a successful run at Arkansas. John L Smith was an interm, and likely doesn't count to the football gods. I'm sorry, I don't make the rules. Don't shoot the messenger. Arky either has to fire Bret and endure the next coach who will also be awful, or wait until 2021.
Florida - Urban Meyer left after too many nightmares about a short little red gremlin and heart trouble in 2010. Since UF did not fire him, the gods may look favorably, but probably not. They're total assholes. Muschamp was the first, and only went 3 years. I'm sorry Gators, but the rule says McElwain is gonna suck.
A&M - A&M fired R.C. Slocum for only winning 6 games in 2002. Won A&M's last conf championship, had multiple 10 win seasons and CCs. Rule says 2 coaches or 10 years, and A&M had Fran and Sherman, both unsuccessful. In 2012, right on schedule, A&M changes coaches and gets Manziel. 10 win season.
Gene Stallings - Stallings resigns after the weight of drama at Bama starts to become crushing in late 1997. Bama is not immune to The Rule. They must suffer. And suffer they do, for 10 years until in 2007, Saban arrives.
There are no exceptions to this rule, and unsuccessful is defined by a fanbase's expectations. It is a vengeance carried down by the football gods for losing faith, as the Israelites did in the god of Abraham. Was this rule always applicable? Maybe not, but evidence suggests it is now.
Let's look at some examples to illustrate the point.
Phil Fulmer - Won an NC at UT, coached until 2008. Was fired 1 year after a ten win season. The gods looked with displeasure at this, and UT was slapped with The Rule. The Rule says 2 unsuccessful coaches, or 10 years, minimum. You could say Kiffin counted, even if he only coached one year. But UT hasn't met the 10 year minimum. That means Butch will probably be fired, as UT is not allowed to be successful until 2018.
Bobby Petrino - Fired because he had sex in 2011. He was only 3 years into a successful run at Arkansas. John L Smith was an interm, and likely doesn't count to the football gods. I'm sorry, I don't make the rules. Don't shoot the messenger. Arky either has to fire Bret and endure the next coach who will also be awful, or wait until 2021.
Florida - Urban Meyer left after too many nightmares about a short little red gremlin and heart trouble in 2010. Since UF did not fire him, the gods may look favorably, but probably not. They're total assholes. Muschamp was the first, and only went 3 years. I'm sorry Gators, but the rule says McElwain is gonna suck.
A&M - A&M fired R.C. Slocum for only winning 6 games in 2002. Won A&M's last conf championship, had multiple 10 win seasons and CCs. Rule says 2 coaches or 10 years, and A&M had Fran and Sherman, both unsuccessful. In 2012, right on schedule, A&M changes coaches and gets Manziel. 10 win season.
Gene Stallings - Stallings resigns after the weight of drama at Bama starts to become crushing in late 1997. Bama is not immune to The Rule. They must suffer. And suffer they do, for 10 years until in 2007, Saban arrives.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:35 pm to cokebottleag
Exception: Bobby Bowden
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:38 pm to cokebottleag
Jim Tressel was forced to resign amid NCAA violations and Urban won a NC just a few years later.
DEBUNKED
DEBUNKED
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:39 pm to cokebottleag
Yeah but:
Arkansas: Forces Houston Nutt out after 3 division titles, has two ten win seasons within the next 4 years.
Auburn: Fires Chiz after NC, wins SEC the next season
LSU: fires Dinardo after he brings LSU back from the grave, brings Saban in and has an NC 5 years later.
just off the top of my head
Arkansas: Forces Houston Nutt out after 3 division titles, has two ten win seasons within the next 4 years.
Auburn: Fires Chiz after NC, wins SEC the next season
LSU: fires Dinardo after he brings LSU back from the grave, brings Saban in and has an NC 5 years later.
just off the top of my head
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:39 pm to white beans
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white beans
Ok I laughed at that one
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:40 pm to cokebottleag
So LSU is an exception?
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:40 pm to Agforlife
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Ok I laughed at that one
have an upvote
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:41 pm to cokebottleag
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College coaching has a rule, and it explains Butch and Bert.
Once a successful coach leaves involuntarily or is fired, a school will endure 2 unsuccessful coaches or 10 years in the wilderness, at a minimum. There is no maximum time limit to their suffering.
There are no exceptions to this rule, and unsuccessful is defined by a fanbase's expectations. It is a vengeance carried down by the football gods for losing faith, as the Israelites did in the god of Abraham. Was this rule always applicable? Maybe not, but evidence suggests it is now.
Let's look at some examples to illustrate the point.
Phil Fulmer - Won an NC at UT, coached until 2008. Was fired 1 year after a ten win season. The gods looked with displeasure at this, and UT was slapped with The Rule. The Rule says 2 unsuccessful coaches, or 10 years, minimum. You could say Kiffin counted, even if he only coached one year. But UT hasn't met the 10 year minimum. That means Butch will probably be fired, as UT is not allowed to be successful until 2018.
Bobby Petrino - Fired because he had sex in 2011. He was only 3 years into a successful run at Arkansas. John L Smith was an interm, and likely doesn't count to the football gods. I'm sorry, I don't make the rules. Don't shoot the messenger. Arky either has to fire Bret and endure the next coach who will also be awful, or wait until 2021.
Florida - Urban Meyer left after too many nightmares about a short little red gremlin and heart trouble in 2010. Since UF did not fire him, the gods may look favorably, but probably not. They're total a-holes. Muschamp was the first, and only went 3 years. I'm sorry Gators, but the rule says McElwain is gonna suck.
A&M - A&M fired R.C. Slocum for only winning 6 games in 2002. Won A&M's last conf championship, had multiple 10 win seasons and CCs. Rule says 2 coaches or 10 years, and A&M had Fran and Sherman, both unsuccessful. In 2012, right on schedule, A&M changes coaches and gets Manziel. 10 win season.
Gene Stallings - Stallings resigns after the weight of drama at Bama starts to become crushing in late 1997. Bama is not immune to The Rule. They must suffer. And suffer they do, for 10 years until in 2007, Saban arrives.
Is a 10 win season supposed to represent success in some way?
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:41 pm to cokebottleag
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There are no exceptions to this rule
Bobby Bowden to Jimbo Fisher
Edit: misread
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:41 pm to cokebottleag
Cokebottleag, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:43 pm to cokebottleag
Your hypothesis is dumb and you should feel bad
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:44 pm to cokebottleag
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Florida - Urban Meyer left after too many nightmares about a short little red gremlin and heart trouble in 2010. Since UF did not fire him, the gods may look favorably, but probably not. They're total assholes. Muschamp was the first, and only went 3 years. I'm sorry Gators, but the rule says McElwain is gonna suck.
Does not work at UF. Spurrier 1 NC, Zook UF sucks, Meyer 2 NCs, Muschamp UF sucks, Mac Infinity+1 NCs.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:45 pm to cokebottleag
Ole Miss: Cutcliffe fired in 2004 after 1 losing season. Ed O and Nutt follow. 2 up years (9-4 in 2008-2009) but otherwise a dumpster fire until Freezus in 2012.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:46 pm to DownSouthJukin
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but otherwise a dumpster fire until Freezus.
wait, what?
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:46 pm to cokebottleag
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McElwain is gonna suck.
Um. Your rule is invalid. I can't be triggered by invalid rules.
Spurrier, Zook, Urban
boom
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and only went 3 years
He went four years.
boom
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:47 pm to cokebottleag
Add Nebraska among others and go back to 1980 and add LSU.
We helped Mac Pack and in the most hateful expression of football godisness Bo Rein's plane went down and LSU experienced TWENTY YEARS in the coaching wilderness, mostly the bad, bad lands.
Now we have a bunch of a holes who want to send Miles packing. A dastardly act for which the fbgs might never forgive us.
We helped Mac Pack and in the most hateful expression of football godisness Bo Rein's plane went down and LSU experienced TWENTY YEARS in the coaching wilderness, mostly the bad, bad lands.
Now we have a bunch of a holes who want to send Miles packing. A dastardly act for which the fbgs might never forgive us.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:47 pm to PawnMaster
Petrino coached 4 seasons at Arky.
Original Post sucks.
Original Post sucks.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 3:51 pm
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