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re: Coker or Sims?

Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by aspiclark
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:50 pm to
I see we've got ourselves "one of those."

I'll see myself out.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:50 pm to
Coker probably hit 8 different Ole Miss players square in the chest. His INTs were horrendous. And even though the game was a complete shite show, there was a point at the end of the game where Alabama was kinda in control of the game.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:50 pm to
Well Sims had a shitty game against OSU....that 4th quarter pick when we had them deep in their own territory was just a killer......but defense lost that game more than Sims
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:50 pm to
By "costly turnovers", I mean turnovers in critical situations with the game on the line. I don't recall any that were as serious as Blake Sims' turnovers against Auburn and OSU
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3140 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:53 pm to
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Well Sims had a shitty game against OSU....that 4th quarter pick when we had them deep in their own territory was just a killer......but defense lost that game more than Sims
I mean, obviously both of those things are true, especially the part about the defense being most at fault for losing a game in which we scored 35 points. Anyway, whatever.

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By "costly turnovers", I mean turnovers in critical situations with the game on the line. I don't recall any
Then I guess you didn't watch the Ole Miss game.

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Coker probably hit 8 different Ole Miss players square in the chest. His INTs were horrendous.

thank you.
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:55 pm to
Those turnovers against Ole miss didn't cost us the game. It didn't help us but it wasn't the reason we lost. The reason we lost is bc we were down 30-10 bc Bateman couldn't do anything
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83335 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:57 pm to
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against Auburn
quote:

critical situations
Did you watch that game?
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
6820 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:58 pm to
Yes, or I wouldn't have just posted that
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3140 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:01 pm to
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Those turnovers against Ole miss didn't cost us the game.


I mean, by themselves they didn't. But no interception in the history of football by itself has cost a team a game, including any of the ones Blake Sims threw. Pretty dumb standard to use for juding picks tbh.


Let's look at Coker's picks in the Ole Miss game, shall we?

Bama down 12 on their own 29 with 11 minutes left to go in the game, Coker throws an interception, 2 plays later Ole Miss scores a touchdown to go up 19.

Was that not a costly turnover with the game on the line?

2 and a half minutes left, Bama now down 6 with the ball on their own 33, first down, coker throws another interception and Ole Miss runs the clock down to 25 seconds.

Can you honestly tell me that wasn't a costly turnover that potentially cost us the game?

I guess some fans only see what they wanna see, but how you can dismiss all of Coker's flaws and then turnaround and blame Sims for the games we lost is, again, bizarre. I won't speculate why.

This post was edited on 2/12/16 at 8:02 pm
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
6820 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:01 pm to
I can see it's about impossible to have a conversation on here so y'all can finish this one
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37564 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:02 pm to
I will say after the Ole Miss game Coker was pretty damn reliable from that point. Of course, we had King Henry toting the rock for 30-35 carries so that took the pressure off him. Coker was still clutch when we needed him to be.

We were more pass happy with Amari and run option oriented with Blake becuase of his mobility......I think we asked more of Blake than we did from Jake
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83335 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:03 pm to
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We were already down 20.
When he first came in, Alabama was in serious trouble. That doesn't mean things can't change as the game progresses. I'm not trying to be too critical, I'm really not. But if I remember correctly, Coker played like shite in that game.
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3140 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:04 pm to
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I can see it's about impossible to have a conversation on here so y'all can finish this one
Oh brother. Just because you don't like what people are saying to the dumb shite you posted doesn't mean it's impossible to have a conversation here. Sack up. We gave your little shitty thread more attention than it was worth tbh. Have a tissue. (there's already a Coker v Sims thread on page 1 btw.)
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83335 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:04 pm to
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Yes, or I wouldn't have just posted that

Is every part of a game a critical part?
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:04 pm to
This is a tough one.

Coker just had this unwillingness to lose. He was 14-0 was a starter. He had a better completion % than Sims, and had less INTs on more attempts. However, Sims had a big advantage in YPA and rushing.
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3140 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:05 pm to
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I think we asked more of Blake than we did from Jake
This is definitely true, and the stats reflect this.

I'm sure Sims wouldn't have minded trading in the 2014 Defense for the 2015 version as long as we're making comparisons.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83335 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

Let's look at Coker's picks in the Ole Miss game, shall we?

Bama down 12 on their own 29 with 11 minutes left to go in the game, Coker throws an interception, 2 plays later Ole Miss scores a touchdown to go up 19.

Was that not a costly turnover with the game on the line?

2 and a half minutes left, Bama now down 6 with the ball on their own 33, first down, coker throws another interception and Ole Miss runs the clock down to 25 seconds.

Can you honestly tell me that wasn't a costly turnover that potentially cost us the game?
And at this point, Henry was gashing them and the offense was dodging bullet after bullet every time Coker decided to close his eyes and fire off a pass. That's literally what it looked like he was doing.

Everyone is going to think I hate Coker This is honestly how I remember the game.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:08 pm to
Both for different reasons. Geaux cats!
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3140 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:10 pm to
I mean, you're not far off. I agree he played tough, made clutch plays, 3 TD passes and a rushing one, some tough runs, won the team over, etc.

But let's not forget he went 21-45 with 2 crushing 4th quarter interceptions in crucial moments. (Could have been more, as you pointed out.)
This post was edited on 2/12/16 at 8:11 pm
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:10 pm to
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I hate Coker


Got it.
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