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Coker or JJ, which preseason heisman candidates is the biggest bust?
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:56 am
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:56 am
Johnson
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:57 am to TJGator1215
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:57 am to TJGator1215
Racist
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:58 am to TJGator1215
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Which player fro.
I always favored Kareem's, even though he wasn't SEC.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:58 am to TJGator1215
Jake Johnson
Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:19 am to Chazzy McRamzee
Not even the biggest gump homer thought Coker was a Heisman candidate.
JJ however was pumped up to be the next coming of Joe Montana by Gussie himself.
JJ however was pumped up to be the next coming of Joe Montana by Gussie himself.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:43 am to TJGator1215
I don't know anyone that was pushing Coker to be preseason anything this year.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:44 am to TJGator1215
I think most Alabama fans knew Coker wasn't very good, so this thread is stupid.
jk I can make fun of Auburn, so never mind.
jk I can make fun of Auburn, so never mind.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:45 am to CrimsonCoast
2013 Coker vs. 2014 JJ... Both Junior QBs with lots of Heisman Hype. More national hype on JJ, more local hype on Coker..
I am good with calling this one a draw.
2013 Coker was 10th (USA), note Nick Marshall was 6th.
COKER: ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. said he was a first round talent with an arm that could make all the throws and the athleticism to beat teams with his feet.
The assumption was he would start for two years at Alabama, lead them to a pair of SEC titles and maybe a national title before leaving for the NFL as a first round pick.
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oker has generated some Bunyanesque buzz.
COKER ON THE MOVE
Jacob Coker visiting Alabama
"I've never had anybody with his size who throws it as well as he does," said FSU QB coach Randy Sanders who's been around big-time programs since his days as a Tennessee player in the mid-80s with the Vols star-crossed quarterback Tony Robinson. "Jake has a really quick release with tremendous arm strength. Rarely does it not spiral or not go where he wants it to go."
Asked if Coker's arm is even better than Winston, the resident Heisman winner, Sanders paused for a few breaths before saying, "Coker's arm is kind of at a different level. Jameis has a very special arm, and this isn't any knock against Jameis, but Jake's probably the best I've seen in 25 years at throwing it."
I am good with calling this one a draw.
2013 Coker was 10th (USA), note Nick Marshall was 6th.
COKER: ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. said he was a first round talent with an arm that could make all the throws and the athleticism to beat teams with his feet.
The assumption was he would start for two years at Alabama, lead them to a pair of SEC titles and maybe a national title before leaving for the NFL as a first round pick.
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oker has generated some Bunyanesque buzz.
COKER ON THE MOVE
Jacob Coker visiting Alabama
"I've never had anybody with his size who throws it as well as he does," said FSU QB coach Randy Sanders who's been around big-time programs since his days as a Tennessee player in the mid-80s with the Vols star-crossed quarterback Tony Robinson. "Jake has a really quick release with tremendous arm strength. Rarely does it not spiral or not go where he wants it to go."
Asked if Coker's arm is even better than Winston, the resident Heisman winner, Sanders paused for a few breaths before saying, "Coker's arm is kind of at a different level. Jameis has a very special arm, and this isn't any knock against Jameis, but Jake's probably the best I've seen in 25 years at throwing it."
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:48 am to allin2010
Draw my arse. You aubies hyped JJ like he'd be the greatest ever.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:51 am to crimsonsaint
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raw my arse. You aubies hyped JJ like he'd be the greatest ever.
You have a short, short memory.... Coker was going to be the BEST QB at Bama every... He was as good as Winston (#1 Pick), strongest arm ever, Heisman winner, 2 SEC championships and a NC...
Coker was plenty hyped when he transferred to Bama.. Every bit as much as JJ, maybe more.
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:52 am to TJGator1215
Is this a serious question? Coker lost out to a RB last year, bama fans weren't expecting him to set the world on fire. And he hasn't even played bad. JJ's own coach pumped him up as a world beater and he did this
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:56 am to TJGator1215
Auburn fans had been treating Johnson like the second coming since mid-2014. Most Bama fans didn't even want Coker starting. He had considerable hype when he first transferred, but no hype whatsoever before this year. I literally had people telling me how much better Johnson would be than Cam Newton.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:57 am to allin2010
Coker (6-foot-5, 230 pounds) will head into the season carrying as much hype as any quarterback not named Winston, Miller, Mariota, Hundley or Petty. Florida State coaches were effusive in their praise of Coker when he transferred -- Jimbo Fisher, for one, said Coker would be a talent upgrade at quarterback for the Tide -- and conventional wisdom is that he will step immediately into the starting lineu
Posted on 9/30/15 at 9:01 am to CrimsonCrusade
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He had considerable hype when he first transferred, but no hype whatsoever before this year.
If you compare 2014 Coker vs. 2014 JJ, that is not the key. JJ will receive ZERO hype next year as a senior.
If you compare 2013 Coker HYPE vs. 2014 JJ hype, I still see a draw. Bama fans were absolutely giddy in the off season about his potential until Blake Simms beat him out.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 9:06 am to TJGator1215
Actually thought Coker player pretty well last game. He had about 6-7 drops - including a TD. One really bad pass - hell but most QBs give up a pick at times.
If Bama gets that out of him (without the drops) in the GA game, they win.
If Bama gets that out of him (without the drops) in the GA game, they win.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 9:08 am to allin2010
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You have a short, short memory.... Coker was going to be the BEST QB at Bama every... He was as good as Winston (#1 Pick), strongest arm ever, Heisman winner, 2 SEC championships and a NC...
Now you are just going overboard. I have never seen one person (outside of a flaming message board) who thought that.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 9:12 am to Bham4Tide
He started out his posts in here stating local hype then proceeded to post hype from the USA Today, Mel Kiper, and FSU's coaches. He's just upset that Jermey is having the most embarrassing season for an SEC player in recent history. Let him melt.
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 9:20 am to TJGator1215
Anyone trying to argue that Coker had more hype coming in than Jeremy Johnson is clueless. Aubs are just trying to swing it to where they don't get bashed for being completely wrong about Johnson and Gus. Coker's hype was amounted to nothing other than he was going to be very McElroy-esque. Johnson was receiving hype from his own coach, his fans, and media outlets everywhere
Is Jeremy Johnson the SEC's best?
If I had a vote, I'd vote Auburn
Jeremy Johnson has every tool to be America's best QB
Is Jeremy Johnson the SEC's best?
If I had a vote, I'd vote Auburn
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I believe Jeremy Johnson will be every bit as good as Malzahn thinks he is. How often does a head coach bring a first-year starting quarterback to SEC Media Days? Johnson may be the first. When Malzahn the quarterback whisperer says Johnson's skill set "will allow us to call all of our offense," defensive coordinators from Louisville to Tuscaloosa should go to DEFCON 1. Immediately.
Jeremy Johnson has every tool to be America's best QB
Posted on 9/30/15 at 9:22 am to TJGator1215
Forget for a moment who was hyped the most. The plain truth is that Coker is still a starting QB for an SEC team and Johnson has been reduced to a bench warmer. Obvious choice is obvious.
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