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re: BREAKING Alabama Associate AD took 25k to steer players to Atlanta financial advisor

Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:44 pm to
This is why many of us were "keeping it real" after hearing about Person. We know the hammer can drop at any time on us as well. Hell, on anyone's team.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:46 pm to
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So he did the same thing as Person, but without passing his crumbs on to player's families (at least not on tape).


Yep, and if my understanding of the charges against Person are correct that alone is what kept him from getting charged too. Unless I missed something, to get charged Person had to take a bribe and then do something to put Auburn at risk for financial loss - which happened when he paid the players and jeopardized the AU basketball program's NCAA compliance.

HOPEFULLY the FBI went through the Sexton family finances with a fine toothed comb and can say for sure they weren't paid. If that is the case, we should be OK with the NCAA.

Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:46 pm to
Bama always tries to top us. You win again.
Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:47 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:47 pm to
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Bama always tries to top us. You win again.


Alabama went with the just the tip strategy.

Auburn humped that puppy all night long.
Posted by AU24
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:47 pm to
what if this was football Bama and auburn admins/coaches working together to cheat. What would the reaction be?
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:47 pm to
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HOPEFULLY the FBI went through the Sexton family finances with a fine toothed comb and can say for sure they weren't paid. If that is the case, we should be OK with the NCAA.

I'm not sure the FBI found this. This isn't the same financial advisor that Chuck was dealing with who was working with the FBI.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:50 pm to
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what if this was football Bama and auburn admins/coaches working together to cheat. What would the reaction be?


Well, we sure as hell wouldn't be getting caught.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:51 pm to
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UA acted in the belief that he was involved in a meeting with Atlanta-based advisor Rashan Michel and Auburn assistant coach Chuck Person


See UA & AU friends, we can work together!

This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 9:54 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:53 pm to
If a high ranking Administrator is involved , does lack of institutional control come into play? Titles mean everything .
Posted by Monticello
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:53 pm to
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Unless I missed something, to get charged Person had to take a bribe and then do something to put Auburn at risk for financial loss - which happened when he paid the players and jeopardized the AU basketball program's NCAA compliance.

HOPEFULLY the FBI went through the Sexton family finances with a fine toothed comb and can say for sure they weren't paid. If that is the case, we should be OK with the NCAA.



Exactly. The federal fraud statute Person was charged under requires as an element of the crime that Person committed fraud against Auburn University. He is not charged with fraud against the player. The crime is fraud against the university since he is a public employee. While employed by Auburn he accepted a bribe that personally benefited himself while at the same time harming AU (due to the NCAA violations and ineligibility of its athletes).

If this Bama official actually paid Sexton or his family, he will definitely be charged. If he is never charged, that tells you he either did not commit NCAA violations, or the FBI does not think they can prove it (which means the NCAA has zero chance of proving it).

If he did not violate NCAA rules he could still be charged with being a public employee using his public position for personal gain, but that would not be the same crime of fraud Persons is charged with.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 10:00 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:54 pm to
PearlJam is correct. This came from an internal investigation which was in response to the FBI sting.

Greg Byrne just gave the FBI Kobie Baker's head on a silver platter. They hadn't even opened the book on him yet. It will be a couple of years before we know the true depth of this, I think.
Posted by crimsonblazer
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:55 pm to
keep trying
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:55 pm to
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If a high ranking Administrator is involved , does lack of institutional control come into play? Titles mean everything .



This guy
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:55 pm to
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If a high ranking Administrator is involved , does lack of institutional control come into play? Titles mean everything .



You mean the high ranking admin we hired directly from the NCAA compliance department? You tell me....how does the NCAA accuse a university of LOIC due to the transgressions of a man who worked for their own compliance department 2 years ago?
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:56 pm to
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See UA & AU friends, we can work together!


Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28280 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:57 pm to
It's a good question. This wasn't some rogue coach, it was a rogue suit.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:57 pm to
Who would have thought cheating is what would bring us together?








Everybody? Everybody thought that? Yea that makes sense.
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