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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:50 am to sms151t
Because he was a Manning.....nuff said.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:50 am to MeatPants
Hornung did.
He had 420 yds rushing
Scored 6 Td's I do not know how many PAT or FG he had though.
I know the 3/13 is correct.
Some consider him and Tim Brown to be the greatest all around players ever at Notre Dame, that is saying something.
He had 420 yds rushing
Scored 6 Td's I do not know how many PAT or FG he had though.
I know the 3/13 is correct.
Some consider him and Tim Brown to be the greatest all around players ever at Notre Dame, that is saying something.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 9:52 am
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:50 am to MeatPants
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Because Paul Hornung is considered an all time great in college and the NFL. im sure he was pretty damn good that year
The only stat that he had Majors beat was KR yardage, but think about it, their defense was terrible, he got to return a lot more kickoffs.
Couple that with the fact that he's the only player in history to win the award on a team with a losing record, over a guy who had better stats on an undefeated team.
Hornung was a great football player, but he didn't deserve the Heisman.
ETA: Oh yeah, Hornung kicked fieldgoals, whoopdee fricking doo
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 9:52 am
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:54 am to lockthevaught
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Because he was a Manning.....nuff said
Well in that case, it is family legacy to not win it. So they got it right on another level also.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:55 am to sms151t
Jason White was surrounded by talent....his numbers should have looked better. Eli had mediocre players and exceeded expectations. He won 10 games at Ole Miss with shitty talent around him.
Did Jason White do anything after college? Eli won 2 super bowls. I'm pretty sure Jason White is the last player to win the heisman and not get drafted.
Did Jason White do anything after college? Eli won 2 super bowls. I'm pretty sure Jason White is the last player to win the heisman and not get drafted.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 9:59 am
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:56 am to Vols&Shaft83
So he ended up getting it because he was pretty much the whole team. QB, RB, K, P returner, etc?
The bigger question was why did Notre Dame suck so bad? That was their hey day
The bigger question was why did Notre Dame suck so bad? That was their hey day
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:57 am to MeatPants
Im sure Ole Miss was cheating anyways, so frick them
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:58 am to Frac the world
Donkey Kong Suh.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:59 am to lockthevaught
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Did Jason White do anything after college? Eli won 2 super bowls.
White also wasn't drafted and didn't even receive an NFL tryout. The only 2 other Heisman winners to not be drafted chose not to enter.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 10:00 am to lockthevaught
What does NFL have to do with best CFB player?
I mean the guy had 2 ACL surgeries before his Junior year, of course he is not getting drafted. He was in Titans camp.
I mean the guy had 2 ACL surgeries before his Junior year, of course he is not getting drafted. He was in Titans camp.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 10:03 am
Posted on 7/25/16 at 10:01 am to MeatPants
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So he ended up getting it because he was pretty much the whole team. QB, RB, K, P returner, etc?
Majors did everything but kick, I'm sure if he had to, he would have done that too.
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The bigger question was why did Notre Dame suck so bad?
Well, when your starting QB has a 1:3.3 TD:Int ratio, I'm sure that doesn't help.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 10:04 am to Vols&Shaft83
Notre Dame ran the Box Single Wing, it is what Auburn runs now. I mean Gus invented the Wildcat, the Single Wing, and offense according to Stephens Media though.
They had basically 2 QB's on field at all times.
They had basically 2 QB's on field at all times.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 10:07 am
Posted on 7/25/16 at 10:09 am to sms151t
With the talent that OU had that season...I believe many other QBs could have done just as good with that team. OU would have still had a good season without Jason White.
Eli was our team in 2003. We won 10 games. Without him we maybe win 2 or 3. I believe he was the most talented player in CFB that season and did more for his team than the other finalists.
Eli was our team in 2003. We won 10 games. Without him we maybe win 2 or 3. I believe he was the most talented player in CFB that season and did more for his team than the other finalists.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 10:11 am to sms151t
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Notre Dame ran the Box Single Wing, it is what Auburn runs now. I mean Gus invented the Wildcat, the Single Wing, and offense according to Stephens Media though.
They had basically 2 QB's on field at all times.
Care to go look at what we were running back then?
Posted on 7/25/16 at 10:12 am to Frac the world
I think Toby Gerhart should have won it. His numbers were outstanding.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 10:12 am to Vols&Shaft83
They ran the T and Single Wing I thought, not the Box.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 10:13 am to MeatPants
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Somebody Throw up the Hornung and Majors stats for me
Include everything because I believe Hornung kicked, etc. Id just like to see it
First stat...regular season record (prior to voting)
Tennessee - 10-0
Notre Dame - 2-8
Hourning Stats:
Passing - 59-111 (53%), 917 yards (8.3 yards per attempt), 3 tds, 13 ints
Rushing - 94 attempts, 420 yards (4.5 yards per carry), 6 tds
Receiving - 3, 26 yards, 0 tds
There are no stats for Hourning kicking shown on sports-reference.com
Majors Stats:
Passing - 36-59 (61%), 552 yards (9.4 per attempt), 5 tds, 3 ints.
Rushing - 108 attempts, 549 yards (5.1 yards per carry), 7 tds
Receiving - None
Kicking - None
Hourning threw for more yards (winner - Hourning)
Majors threw more tds (winner - Majors)
Hourning threw more interceptions (Winner Majors)
Majors had more yards per attempt (Winner Majors)
Majors rushed for more yards (winner - Majors)
Majors averaged more yards per carry (winner - Majors)
Majors rushed for more touchdowns (winner - Majors)
Majors had a better completion percentage (winner - Majors)
Hourning caught 3 passes (winner - Hourning)
Hourning led his teams to wins over Indiana and North Carolina
Majors led his teams to wins over Auburn, Duke, Chattanooga, Alabama, 2nd ranked Georgia Tech (at tech), 19th ranked Ole Miss, North Carolina, Kentucky and Vanderbilt.
Majors beat 2 ranked teams (Georgia Tech finished 10-1 and finished 4th in the AP). In their common opponent (North Carolina), Majors led UT to a 20 point win Hourning led Notre Dame to a 7 point win.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 10:16 am
Posted on 7/25/16 at 10:16 am to sms151t
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They ran the T and Single Wing I thought, not the Box.
We did, but what does it matter? It's not Majors's fault that Notre Dame had a retarded offensive scheme.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 10:18 am to Vols&Shaft83
No it is not. I was just trying to point out that he was not the only QB that ND had.
I am not saying Majors did not deserve it.
Majors got stabbed in the back twice at UT
First the Trophy then by Fulmer.
I am not saying Majors did not deserve it.
Majors got stabbed in the back twice at UT
First the Trophy then by Fulmer.
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