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Posted on 7/5/15 at 3:34 pm to VABuckeye
You're probably going to school the shite out of me for asking this.....
But what's the big deal about the Rose Bowl? Since I've been alive the best teams have usually come from the South/SE. The Rose bowl is boring most years. The best teams don't play in it.
But what's the big deal about the Rose Bowl? Since I've been alive the best teams have usually come from the South/SE. The Rose bowl is boring most years. The best teams don't play in it.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 3:40 pm to ReauxlTide222
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But what's the big deal about the Rose Bowl? Since I've been alive the best teams have usually come from the South/SE. The Rose bowl is boring most years. The best teams don't play in it.
Well its in sunny california and there is a parade and all too. What more could a woman ask for?
Posted on 7/5/15 at 3:43 pm to ReauxlTide222
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But what's the big deal about the Rose Bowl?
Oldest bowl game in college football that started in 1902. Since 1945, it has been the highest attended college football bowl game. You also have the Rose bowl parade.
Originally titled the "Tournament East–West football game", the first Rose Bowl was played on January 1, 1902, starting the tradition of New Year's Day bowl games. The football game was added in 1902 to help fund the cost of the Rose Parade. The inaugural game featured Fielding H. Yost's dominating 1901 Michigan team, representing the East, which crushed a previously 3-1-2 team from Stanford University, representing the West, by a score of 49–0 after Stanford quit in the third quarter. Michigan finished the season 11–0 and was crowned the national champion.
For the majority of its history, the bowl game consisted of the Pac 12 champion and the B1G champion.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 3:48 pm to ReauxlTide222
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But what's the big deal about the Rose Bowl? Since I've been alive the best teams have usually come from the South/SE. The Rose bowl is boring most years. The best teams don't play in it.
Not since the advent of the BCS. Prior to that it had national title implications fairly often. Alabama was the 1979 champ because USC beat #1 Ohio State in the last 2 minutes of the Rose Bowl. The national championship has been won or lost in that game many times. Ohio State knocked off Arizona State in the 1997 Rose Bowl. If they don't do that then Florida probably doesn't get the title. That's just a couple of examples.
It has lost its luster in the BCS era. There were several times when the PAC 12 or Big Ten representative was playing elsewhere in the BCS championship game. Still, it's a huge game to B1G and PAC 12 fans.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 3:50 pm to nebraskafaninwi
quote:This sentence ruined your whole post. Not that the rest of the post was impressive.
For the majority of its history, the bowl game consisted of the Pac 12 champion and the B1G champion.
Seriously though, if we're all pretending the Rose Bowl is some amazing game now, there's no way we can objectively talk about OSU/Michigan vs UA/AU.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 3:54 pm to ReauxlTide222
lol. you are stupid. Yeah, the Rose Bowl was a game for the majority of its history that hosted the 5th place team from the B1G and Pac 12...
what a fricken idiot you are.
what a fricken idiot you are.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 3:55 pm to ReauxlTide222
No one is pretending it is now but the game certainly had great historical significance. Winning or losing that game influenced the national championship as much or more than any other bowl game. In fact, the only bowl game I can think of that rivals it in impact historically is the Sugar Bowl. 
Posted on 7/5/15 at 3:55 pm to WestCoastAg
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he iron bowl, for my whole life up until cam, gave me no reason to watch. That was relevant to the south but to the rest of the country, not so much.
I grew up outside of Chicago and the Iron Bowl was appointment TV on rivalry weekend for my friends and I.
The Game, for about a decade, was just a reason to see if John Cooper would screw things up for the Buckeyes.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 3:56 pm to nvasil1
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The Game, for about a decade, was just a reason to see if John Cooper would screw things up for the Buckeyes.
It wasn't a question of if, but when.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 3:57 pm to VABuckeye
I know I know, I'm just being difficult.
And sure, maybe the best teams were off playing for something more. But that fact applies WAY more to the South and Sugar Bowl. And the Southern teams were out there winning those bigger games.
It's the reason I think the Iron Bowl has been much bigger in my lifetime.
And sure, maybe the best teams were off playing for something more. But that fact applies WAY more to the South and Sugar Bowl. And the Southern teams were out there winning those bigger games.
It's the reason I think the Iron Bowl has been much bigger in my lifetime.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 4:05 pm to VABuckeye
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It wasn't a question of if, but when
I only typed "if" because he managed to win a couple times.Posted on 7/5/15 at 4:07 pm to ReauxlTide222
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But that fact applies WAY more to the South and Sugar Bowl
Not true historically. As a matter of fact I used two years as examples where the winner of the Sugar Bowl wouldn't have mattered in the national title race if the outcome of the Rose Bowl was different. Those two bowl games are intertwined as the best two and it would be a disservice to declare one or the other as superior.
Again, historically.
This post was edited on 7/5/15 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 7/5/15 at 4:07 pm to nvasil1
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I only typed "if" because he managed to win a couple times
Blind squirrels find nuts.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 4:09 pm to sarc
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quote: Not even close to true. Look at ratings in the state of Alabama, or the southeast in general versus the rest of the country. Outside of this area, no one cares beyond it being another game of over-hyped football. As Alabama continues their decline, this rivalry will fall back to where it belongs. The 3rd highest rated market for the '13 Iron Bowl was Columbus, OH with a 20.1. OSU fans obsessed with the Iron Bowl
OSU needed Bama to lose to have a shot to win the title in 2013...obvious why OSU fans cared
Posted on 7/5/15 at 4:20 pm to ReauxlTide222
Is this about the the biggest rivalry or most watched game?
There is a difference. Lots of non rival teams get great TV ratings.
Growing up in Alabama I can not imagine anything being more intense than the IB. The LSU game has been a big game for a few years but its a rivalry only one way as Bama, and trust me on this, feels nowhere near the hatred for LSU as we do Auburn. Not even close and LSU only feels it for Bama because Saban is here.
UM and OSU is big no doubt but a rivalry is about mutual friggin hate and disgust and the IB is the most intense rivalry in sports and it aint even close. I dont care about TV rating, what somebody in Nebraska thinks, or anybody else who doesnt KNOW what the IB is like. If you grew up in Bama, lived this game year in and year out, not slept for the week leading up to the game, felt out of body when the kickoff happened, all the emotions that one game brings you would understand. The IB and it far and away the best rivalry.
There is a difference. Lots of non rival teams get great TV ratings.
Growing up in Alabama I can not imagine anything being more intense than the IB. The LSU game has been a big game for a few years but its a rivalry only one way as Bama, and trust me on this, feels nowhere near the hatred for LSU as we do Auburn. Not even close and LSU only feels it for Bama because Saban is here.
UM and OSU is big no doubt but a rivalry is about mutual friggin hate and disgust and the IB is the most intense rivalry in sports and it aint even close. I dont care about TV rating, what somebody in Nebraska thinks, or anybody else who doesnt KNOW what the IB is like. If you grew up in Bama, lived this game year in and year out, not slept for the week leading up to the game, felt out of body when the kickoff happened, all the emotions that one game brings you would understand. The IB and it far and away the best rivalry.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 4:22 pm to nebraskafaninwi
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lol. you are stupid. Yeah, the Rose Bowl was a game for the majority of its history that hosted the 5th place team from the B1G and Pac 12... what a fricken idiot you are.
My man, I know the game has been enormous. And is still fun.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 4:27 pm to VABuckeye
quote:I'm not big on history, unless it strengthens my argument
VABuckeye
In that case, I love it! Anyways, I hope Michigan can get back to kicking arse. I'd love for "The Game" to have playoff implications. I honestly don't care which rivalry is bigger. Just having fun discussing it.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 4:41 pm to Roses of Crimson
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UM and OSU is big no doubt but a rivalry is about mutual friggin hate and disgust
So, you just described us. We just happen to have a state border between us. Without living both one cannot judge the other.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 4:42 pm to ReauxlTide222
I'm enjoying the discussion as well. My son and I plan on getting down to an Alabama home game in the next year or two. We had an absolute blast with the Alabama fans at the Sugar Bowl.
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