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Best all time coach in college baseball
Posted on 6/13/16 at 1:05 am
Posted on 6/13/16 at 1:05 am
Augie or Skip?
Posted on 6/13/16 at 1:09 am to biggsc
Dedeaux from USC. From New Orleans. Frazier was good also.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 1:10 am to biggsc
Skip had quite a run, and was dominant, but only had 870 wins
Augie won a National Championship in 4 different decades, and almost made it 5 different decades in 2014
also, Augie has 1950 wins, over 1000 more wins than Skip
Augie won a National Championship in 4 different decades, and almost made it 5 different decades in 2014
also, Augie has 1950 wins, over 1000 more wins than Skip
Posted on 6/13/16 at 1:26 am to lestertheghost
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Skip had quite a run, and was dominant, but only had 870 wins
Augie won a National Championship in 4 different decades, and almost made it 5 different decades in 2014
also, Augie has 1950 wins, over 1000 more wins than Skip
Skip coached for 18 seasons.
Augie has coached since '69, with only 4 more CWS appearances, I think.
Both are great coaches, I just think Skip is better. Though I would say Dedeaux would be best, due to insane dynasty he had at USC.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 1:54 am to Tiger Live2
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Skip coached for 18 seasons.
Augie has coached since '69, with only 4 more CWS appearances, I think.
Longevity counts for something in and of itself, though. You don't have to extrapolate and guess at how well a coach would do over a certain time frame. The coach has proven how he could perform over the extra X number of years. There's no guarantee that a dominant coach's success wouldn't wane if his tenure were stretched out. See: Bobby Bowden for an example of a coach that coached too long. For that matter, see the dominant run the Bear had toward last third of his career for a couterexample. The only way to safely predict if Coach A would remain as dominant as Coach B did is for Coach A to actually coach those extra years.
I'm not picking a winner, incidentally, just making an observation. They're both extremely impressive.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 2:02 am to biggsc
That one guy who was awesome at coaching college ping ball
Posted on 6/13/16 at 2:04 am to randomways
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Longevity counts for something in and of itself, though.
I can understand that, but Skip made the CWS 11 times, in his 18 years, and only missed the tournament twice. And it's not like LSU was a power when he took over.
Not to mention, 5 titles, in 10 years.
And I'm not trying to discount Augie's accomplishments, at all. His longevity, at a high level, is very impressive.
I don't think there is a right, or wrong answer, when deciding which is better. It's JMO, that Skip is better than Augie. I still say they are only fighting for 2nd best.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 2:05 am to harmonics
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That one guy who was awesome at coaching college ping ball
You mean Frank? Frank's a lazy a-hole who leaves shopping carts in parking spaces instead of putting them in the corrals or taking them back to the store. Why would you pick him?
Posted on 6/13/16 at 2:09 am to Tiger Live2
The amount of commas you use is astounding, for real, brah
Posted on 6/13/16 at 2:13 am to Tiger Live2
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I can understand that, but Skip made the CWS 11 times, in his 18 years, and only missed the tournament twice. And it's not like LSU was a power when he took over.
Not to mention, 5 titles, in 10 years.
And I'm not trying to discount Augie's accomplishments, at all. His longevity, at a high level, is very impressive.
I don't think there is a right, or wrong answer, when deciding which is better. It's JMO, that Skip is better than Augie. I still say they are only fighting for 2nd best.
No doubt Skip can claim a dominant run like few other coaches in any sport. When it comes down to it, ranking coaches at their level at all is like choosing between Mary Ann and Ginger. They both have their own appeal, and if you're stuck on an island with the Howells, the Professor, Gilligan, and the Skipper as your only alternative, you won't kick either one out of bed. You'll chain them there, in fact.
That metaphor made sense when I started typing, then something went very wrong. The gist is, ranking them is a fun speculative sport, but both have more than earned the right to be considered purely on their own merits.
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The amount of commas you use is astounding, for real, brah
Only one -- the last one -- wasn't appropriate. The rest were perfectly fine.
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 2:17 am
Posted on 6/13/16 at 2:51 am to randomways
Augie made Fullerton baseball. It was a damn community college for a while, and is still not much more than a commuter school with a great baseball program. That is more impressive than whatever Skip rebuilt.
That said, Skip's run in 91-00 is unparalleled in the era of college baseball being mainstream.
That said, Skip's run in 91-00 is unparalleled in the era of college baseball being mainstream.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 6:22 am to TexasTiger08
Skip was just the first to use a lot of steroids. And they took that shite to a whole new level
Posted on 6/13/16 at 6:48 am to SouthOfHere
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Skip was just the first to use a lot of steroids. And they took that shite to a whole new level
You'll get creamed for making that comment but you are right. I remember a discussion about them years ago with some baseball guru and he said something to the effect "It was pretty evident it was going on. Many of those guys just blew up so fast with well sculpted bodies and it turned a lot of heads."
Posted on 6/13/16 at 6:50 am to biggsc
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Augie or Skip?
lol that's cute
Posted on 6/13/16 at 6:57 am to biggsc
One has a trophy for best coach of the year named after him
Posted on 6/13/16 at 7:26 am to noles25
this is stupid. Skip was a far better manager than Augie.
Deveraux was the best ever though with Bertman second.
Augie is top 5 but hanging around till you are 90 doesn't do much for me
Deveraux was the best ever though with Bertman second.
Augie is top 5 but hanging around till you are 90 doesn't do much for me
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