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re: Bert's problem: agree or disagree
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:26 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:26 pm to Eli Goldfinger
His problem is he isn't consistent . All year long they have a great game than a dud. He beats good teams then loses to sorry third tier teams.
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:44 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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Arkansas doesn't have the recruiting advantages to enable the style of football he's trying to implement.
exactly. the style I like, but we ain't got the men to play it. unfortunately we will wind up with a coach who will have Mizzou/Big whatever crap offense.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:01 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Disagree. He's had the talent, we competed with just about everybody for his 2nd-3rd year. Gave bama at least one run for their money.
We've lost a lot of games we shouldn't, and either he hasn't recruited well enough to replace what we had...OR he just hasn't developed the talent he recruited for shite. I think mostly the latter.
But to say he's struggling because of "recruiting disadvantages" is just not accurate. You can say Arky has recruiting disadvantages for one reason or another, but do we really?
What recruiting advantage does Bama have? OU? Arky has facilities on par and is legitimately in one of the nicest and fastest growing areas in the country. Is the Bama or Oklahoma country side really that much more full of prime SEC football athletes? They've got similar populations to Arky.
Big schools in big population states like Texas, Florida, Georgia, and to a lesser extent LSU obviously have an advantage due to population alone. But I just can't see how out of Arky, Ole Miss, MSU, Mizzou, Tennessee, Bama, Auburn, and OU, Arky is the one with the recruiting disadvantage.
We gots tradition, facilities, and a rabid fan base hungry for wins. If we get a good coach that manages his program right, and puts in the work evaluating and recruiting talent to fit his system, we shouldn't have any issue winning and competing with the best. It's just non-execution on the coach's part at this point.
Seems like to me OU, Bama, Auburn, Ole Miss, and MSU all have virtually the same recruiting capabilities as Arky. Big difference (besides the Mississippi schools) is they've been doing shite right since the 60s, and have instilled a culture of winning, which is why they have the "recruiting advantages" they have now.
We've lost a lot of games we shouldn't, and either he hasn't recruited well enough to replace what we had...OR he just hasn't developed the talent he recruited for shite. I think mostly the latter.
But to say he's struggling because of "recruiting disadvantages" is just not accurate. You can say Arky has recruiting disadvantages for one reason or another, but do we really?
What recruiting advantage does Bama have? OU? Arky has facilities on par and is legitimately in one of the nicest and fastest growing areas in the country. Is the Bama or Oklahoma country side really that much more full of prime SEC football athletes? They've got similar populations to Arky.
Big schools in big population states like Texas, Florida, Georgia, and to a lesser extent LSU obviously have an advantage due to population alone. But I just can't see how out of Arky, Ole Miss, MSU, Mizzou, Tennessee, Bama, Auburn, and OU, Arky is the one with the recruiting disadvantage.
We gots tradition, facilities, and a rabid fan base hungry for wins. If we get a good coach that manages his program right, and puts in the work evaluating and recruiting talent to fit his system, we shouldn't have any issue winning and competing with the best. It's just non-execution on the coach's part at this point.
Seems like to me OU, Bama, Auburn, Ole Miss, and MSU all have virtually the same recruiting capabilities as Arky. Big difference (besides the Mississippi schools) is they've been doing shite right since the 60s, and have instilled a culture of winning, which is why they have the "recruiting advantages" they have now.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:04 pm to dammitbert
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You can say Arky has recruiting disadvantages for one reason or another, but do we really?
Yes we really do, purely looking at what each state produces in terms of college talent. That being said, I agree that it really isn't an excuse for Bert. We have lost plenty of games when we had more talent than the opposing team.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:19 pm to piggilicious
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What's better in LR or available to do in LR that isn't in Fayetteville? Nothing. There's simply more black folks and I guess that's what you're saying.
The real Little Rock problem Bert has had is not that the school isn't there (and if it was everyone would be bitching its not in NW Arkansas where the real population growth is going on) and isn't even that he hates playing in Little Rock more then he hates playing on the road.
Little Rock (and a good chunk of the Eastern part of the state as a whole) just is not producing the number of quality football players that they used to. Little Rock Central used to be one of the best high school programs in the country. Of late they've been a bottom feeder.
If you count Fort Smith as part of NW Arkansas then its been 12 years since a school not from that part of the state has won a championship at the largest school level.
Of the top 5 teams in the division right now only North Little Rock isn't from NW Arkansas.
The talent level just is not what it used to be. NW Arkansas is picking up the slack but if Little Rock was producing players like they did in the past Arkansas would have a bumper crop of talent coming up every year.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:27 pm to dammitbert
The state of AL has 5 million people in it. Both state schools have always recruited GA like a home state. How does Arkansas have a similar recruiting territory?
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:30 pm to dbeck
Arkansas needs to go back to the Big 12. They can go back to recruiting mostly Texans and have the natural rivalries with OU, OSU, and Texas.
Hell, ask if they will take a 2 for 1 and bring Mizzou
Hell, ask if they will take a 2 for 1 and bring Mizzou
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:32 pm to AUCE05
So why can't Arkansas start recruiting Texass like a home state? or Louisiana? Alabama's state schools have done what it takes to recruit at a high level...recruit more fertile grounds. What keeps arky from doing that? Nothing, our coaches just haven't done it. That's an example of other schools overcoming the disadvantages they were given. We're all D-1 schools rich in tradition, we can recruit wherever we put the effort in, and we just haven't done it.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:34 pm to dallastiger55
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Arkansas needs to go back to the Big 12.
This is a joke right?
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:52 pm to BoarEd
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Biggest problem I see is that he isn't very good at motivating his team.
Huge issue in my opinion. I wish, one time, he would get in a player's face and do everything but punch the shite out of him. Players aren't scared. Those guys have to be willing to run through a wall for the coach. Ain't happening at this point.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 4:11 pm to dammitbert
I can't comment on Arkansas, but AU is basically in GA. There is enough talent within a two hour radius from campus to win more than we do. I would guess being in NWA, and OU putting up barriers on north TX is reason for Arkys failures. I would hire Chad Morris tomorrow if I were the AD there.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 4:14 pm to Wicked Pissah
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Huge issue in my opinion. I wish, one time, he would get in a player's face and do everything but punch the shite out of him. Players aren't scared. Those guys have to be willing to run through a wall for the coach. Ain't happening at this point.
The one time I can remember Bert getting well and truly made was after Auburn roflstomped us. He pushed the team hard in practice and was noticeable irate (even the TV announcers were talking about it) in preparation for the next game.
The next game being where we utterly over powered SEC East champion Florida.
Maybe Bert needs to get in touch with his inner a-hole.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 4:15 pm to Arksulli
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The one time I can remember Bert getting well and truly made was after Auburn roflstomped us. He pushed the team hard in practice and was noticeable irate (even the TV announcers were talking about it) in preparation for the next game.
The next game being where we utterly over powered SEC East champion Florida.
Maybe Bert needs to get in touch with his inner a-hole.
If we are to believe that this was all true then we have got to be feeling good going into the A&M game.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 4:16 pm to kywildcatfanone
Bert's biggest problem is the genius fans who think his name is Bert.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 4:17 pm to dammitbert
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Big schools in big population states like Texas, Florida, Georgia, and to a lesser extent LSU obviously have an advantage due to population alone. But I just can't see how out of Arky, Ole Miss, MSU, Mizzou, Tennessee, Bama, Auburn, and OU, Arky is the one with the recruiting disadvantage.
All those schools, except for Missouri, are located in or within a short drive of a hot bed of talent. It's not rocket science why we will never be a national power in modern football.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 4:21 pm to JaboStokes
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Bert's biggest problem is the genius fans who think his name is Bert.
You still on about that
Posted on 9/18/17 at 4:34 pm to dallastiger55
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Arkansas needs to go back to the Big 12.
you need to go back inside your dads ballsack
Posted on 9/18/17 at 5:39 pm to Eli Goldfinger
There aren't enough ribs in Arkansas to feed that boy!
Posted on 9/18/17 at 5:45 pm to dallastiger55
quote:LSU needs to go back to the PAC-12.
Arkansas needs to go back to the Big 12
Posted on 9/18/17 at 6:52 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Miss St has the biggest recruiting "disadvantages."
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