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Posted on 10/29/10 at 9:55 am
Posted on 10/29/10 at 9:55 am
I have watched with both amusement and some irritation the anxiety over the possibility of Boise St (and maybe TCU...) going undefeated and still not being in the BCS Championship game behind an 1 loss Alabama or Auburn. Even several of my co-workers are "angry" at this possibility claiming it is some kind of conspiracy...
Everyone forgets there has been several occasions in the past teams with equal records have been left out from stronger conferences and there has not been the furor you have now and it hasn't even happened yet.
The BCS has certainly become the thing everyone loves to hate...
Everyone forgets there has been several occasions in the past teams with equal records have been left out from stronger conferences and there has not been the furor you have now and it hasn't even happened yet.
The BCS has certainly become the thing everyone loves to hate...
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Posted on 10/29/10 at 9:57 am to klrstix
the BCS came to be the thing everyone loved to hate many years ago.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 9:59 am to Thracken13
But Obama's gonna fix it for us!
Posted on 10/29/10 at 10:03 am to Vince
yes, and i love it..i love it that weak arse boise gets left out year after year and will continue to do so..and if you still think that boise on a neutral field can beat ANYBODY in the country, you are dead wrong my friend..if LA Tech gained over 150 on the ground, i can ONLY imagine what T rich and M ing would do to them..If bama doesnt get into the BCSNCG, i hope to GOD THEY PLAY boise..just to skull frick them
Posted on 10/29/10 at 10:09 am to klrstix
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I have watched with both amusement and some irritation the anxiety over the possibility of Boise St (and maybe TCU...) going undefeated and still not being in the BCS Championship game behind an 1 loss Alabama or Auburn. Even several of my co-workers are "angry" at this possibility claiming it is some kind of conspiracy...
Everyone forgets there has been several occasions in the past teams with equal records have been left out from stronger conferences and there has not been the furor you have now and it hasn't even happened yet.
The BCS has certainly become the thing everyone loves to hate...
Not sure I understand the point of your post. Are you saying your co-workers are angry that Boise State could be left out for a team like Auburn or Alabama?
Regardless, the BCS has certainly inspired some controversy, but I think it's a pretty decent system. Other than 2004, I think you could argue that the 2 best teams played in most (if not all) of the championship games. Maybe Oregon should have played in 2001, but no one was going to beat Miami. And maybe USC and LSU should've played in 2003, but that worked itself out with split titles. Perhaps they should've just not awarded the trophy for the 2007 season, though. Nobody deserved it.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 10:13 am to Hook Em Horns
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yes, and i love it..i love it that weak arse boise gets left out year after year and will continue to do so..and if you still think that boise on a neutral field can beat ANYBODY in the country, you are dead wrong my friend..if LA Tech gained over 150 on the ground, i can ONLY imagine what T rich and M ing would do to them..If bama doesnt get into the BCSNCG, i hope to GOD THEY PLAY boise..just to skull frick them
Well, I tend to agree that, given several weeks to prepare and get healthy, Boise State can play with just about any team. But that doesn't make them the best team. They have good coaches who can come up with great plays, and they ALWAYS have the advantage of being the underdog against a top team. I wish a team like Alabama could play them ten weeks in a row, because then their lack of depth would start to show as they have to start subbing in inferior players to play against a great team.
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Posted on 10/29/10 at 10:32 am to RMFTBama
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Not sure I understand the point of your post. Are you saying your co-workers are angry that Boise State could be left out for a team like Auburn or Alabama?
Yes this is exactly what I am saying even if Bama or Auburn is a 1 lost team based upon the prognosticating of many of the sports pundits...
Posted on 10/29/10 at 10:42 am to klrstix
Boise's conference is full of teams is what SEC fans refer to as rent-a-wins.
their non-conference slate is
VaTech
Wyoming
Oregon St
Toledo
C'mon Boise...you can do better than this!
If you want to be in the conversation, you need all of your non conf games to be against top 25 teams
Georgia's beatdown of Hawaii showed the world a few yrs ago what going undefeated in the WAC tells us.
their non-conference slate is
VaTech
Wyoming
Oregon St
Toledo
C'mon Boise...you can do better than this!
If you want to be in the conversation, you need all of your non conf games to be against top 25 teams
Georgia's beatdown of Hawaii showed the world a few yrs ago what going undefeated in the WAC tells us.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 10:45 am to klrstix
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Yes this is exactly what I am saying even if Bama or Auburn is a 1 lost team based upon the prognosticating of many of the sports pundits...
Well, what do you think? If Alabama is a 1-loss team, they very likely will have played 8 ranked teams during the regular season, going 7-1 (and, according to your scenario, potentially beating the team that gave them their lone loss).
Boise State, on the other hand, will likely have played 3 ranked teams throughout the season.
So, taking strength of schedule into account, you'll have to decide what's more impressive:
3-0 against 3 ranked teams
OR
7-1 against 8 ranked teams.
I know which one I find more impressive. If that isn't enough for you, reverse the schedules and consider what you think the records would be. Do you think Alabama could go undefeated with Boise's schedule? And do you think Boise could lose 1 game or less with Alabama's schedule?
Posted on 10/29/10 at 10:52 am to Dobermann
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Georgia's beatdown of Hawaii showed the world a few yrs ago what going undefeated in the WAC tells us.
Their beatdown of Boise State in 2005 also showed us what an SEC team can do against a WAC team.
I know a lot of people point to the victory over Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl as proof that they can play with the big guys, but we can't forget that Oklahoma has now lost 5 straight BCS games, and their game with Boise was the closest of all of them. 2 of the losses have been blowouts, and the other 2 have been sound defeats.
I don't think their sloppy victory over undefeated TCU last year proves much.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 10:59 am to RMFTBama
If you really believe the BCS gets it right and the 2 best teams usually play for the NC, then why don't they just use a system for that NCAA Basketball? Why not do that in Baseball and let the 2 teams they come up with play a best of 7 series instead of all the playoff games?
We all know the answer-because of the excitement and the possibility a "cinderella" just might rise to the occasion. I keep repeating this but the NC in College football needs to be decided on the field-like all other sports, needs to play the most games to prove they really are the champion. The current BCS formula does a good job to pick maybe the best maybe 4-8 teams and you can seed a playoff from that-but too much statistical error and other factors to let it decide who plays in the NC game!!!
We all know the answer-because of the excitement and the possibility a "cinderella" just might rise to the occasion. I keep repeating this but the NC in College football needs to be decided on the field-like all other sports, needs to play the most games to prove they really are the champion. The current BCS formula does a good job to pick maybe the best maybe 4-8 teams and you can seed a playoff from that-but too much statistical error and other factors to let it decide who plays in the NC game!!!
Posted on 10/29/10 at 11:08 am to RMFTBama
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I know a lot of people point to the victory over Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl
and it was obvious Boise was sky-high for this game and OU was completely flat because they got stuck playing Boise to cap off a season after winning the Big 12.
That showed us nothing we didn't already know...good teams can lose to weaker competition when the conditions are just right.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 11:08 am to StarkvilleTigerFan
There are 25 teams in College Football that can beat any other team if they have 3-4 weeks to prepare.
There are 25 teams in College Football that can play in the WAC or MWC and run the table every year.
Non-qualifiers are non-qualifiers for a reason. They don't get brutalized every week. They don't deserve to get a shot.
There are 25 teams in College Football that can play in the WAC or MWC and run the table every year.
Non-qualifiers are non-qualifiers for a reason. They don't get brutalized every week. They don't deserve to get a shot.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 11:10 am to StarkvilleTigerFan
For the record, I don't think the BCS gets it right all the time and so I do think the BCS is flawed.
Also, I don't think given the current system Boise should get a shot above a 1 loss Bama or Auburn.
I was just commenting on the amped up angst I am seeing now at a level I have not seen in the past...
Also, I don't think given the current system Boise should get a shot above a 1 loss Bama or Auburn.
I was just commenting on the amped up angst I am seeing now at a level I have not seen in the past...
Posted on 10/29/10 at 8:03 pm to GPCBAMA
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There are 25 teams in College Football that can play in the WAC or MWC and run the table every year.
Non-qualifiers are non-qualifiers for a reason. They don't get brutalized every week. They don't deserve to get a shot.
Agree. Put Boise State in any SEC team's schedule this year and they would not be undefeated.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 11:15 pm to AUDave
"Linemen Win Football Games"
No. Effective linemen win football games.
No. Effective linemen win football games.
Posted on 10/30/10 at 7:39 am to Vince
Yes, Change we can live with.....but can ill afford.
Posted on 10/30/10 at 7:44 am to Vince
Yes, Change we can live with.....but can ill afford.
Posted on 10/30/10 at 8:53 am to RlTde2
What does the Utah beatdown of Bama in the Sugar bowl tell us about the MWC vs the SEC?
It's college football not the NFL and the BCS conferences created the BCS mess we now have. A playoff is long overdue - then we can settle it on the field the way every other sport does.
It's college football not the NFL and the BCS conferences created the BCS mess we now have. A playoff is long overdue - then we can settle it on the field the way every other sport does.
Posted on 10/30/10 at 11:00 am to Vince
I'm with you Vince. Don't understand the hiring.
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