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Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:13 pm
Reading some blogs early this morning and came across this Sporting News - Matt Hayes Article:
According to the USA Today, AU is giving 13 points in that Thursday night game @ Kansas St. AU beat two BCS conference teams by 13 or more in the regular season last year. UT and Arky who both failed to reach bowl eligibility and combined for an 8-16 record. KSU was only 8-5 last year, but were 11-2 the year before.
Considering the amount of close games AU played last year and their recent history away from JHS against non-conference opponents from BCS (former) conferences, doesn't this line just beg you to take the Wildcats at +13?* AU fans, help me out here, who have you played on the road since that magical '97 victory? Any teams from West of the Mississippi since 1980?
I would say the off week would help, but it appears as if KSU also benefits from an off week prior that game. This appears to be easy money. AU wins by 12 or less or AU loses and I still win.*
What am I missing? Why should I take AU and the points?
*If gambling were legal
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For those thinking Auburn is a national title contender, consider this: The Tigers haven’t won a road non-con game against a BCS/Power 5 team since 1997, when Terry Bowden’s Auburn team went into Charlottesville and beat Virginia 28-17. Auburn hasn’t won a non-con game against a team west of the Mississippi since a victory over TCU in 1980.
According to the USA Today, AU is giving 13 points in that Thursday night game @ Kansas St. AU beat two BCS conference teams by 13 or more in the regular season last year. UT and Arky who both failed to reach bowl eligibility and combined for an 8-16 record. KSU was only 8-5 last year, but were 11-2 the year before.
Considering the amount of close games AU played last year and their recent history away from JHS against non-conference opponents from BCS (former) conferences, doesn't this line just beg you to take the Wildcats at +13?* AU fans, help me out here, who have you played on the road since that magical '97 victory? Any teams from West of the Mississippi since 1980?
I would say the off week would help, but it appears as if KSU also benefits from an off week prior that game. This appears to be easy money. AU wins by 12 or less or AU loses and I still win.*
What am I missing? Why should I take AU and the points?
*If gambling were legal
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:17 pm to MenloDawg
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, who have you played on the road since that magical '97 victory?
I might be missing one but USC, GT, Clem and WVU
ETA, Add Syracuse, like parks mentioned
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:18 pm to MenloDawg
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For those thinking Auburn is a national title contender, consider this: The Tigers haven’t won a road non-con game against a BCS/Power 5 team since 1997, when Terry Bowden’s Auburn team went into Charlottesville and beat Virginia 28-17. Auburn hasn’t won a non-con game against a team west of the Mississippi since a victory over TCU in 1980.
For context puposes: How many games have we lost since 1980 to an OOC team west of the Miss? and in a BCS conf since 1997?
We played @Syracuse 2001, @USC in 2002, @GT 2003, @WVU 2008, @Clemson in 2011...thats all I got.
One game west of the Miss since 1980...I am sure that is not right but I cannot think of any others.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:18 pm to MenloDawg
The talent differential alone should be enough to make you bet AU.
Your post mentioned that we beat UT and Arky by more than 13. Both of those teams outweigh K State with talent - heavily. We are talking about an 8-5 team that lost to an FCS team last year.
Take Auburn, you won't regret it.
Your post mentioned that we beat UT and Arky by more than 13. Both of those teams outweigh K State with talent - heavily. We are talking about an 8-5 team that lost to an FCS team last year.
Take Auburn, you won't regret it.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:22 pm to MenloDawg
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This appears to be easy money. AU wins by 12 or less or AU loses and I still win.* What am I missing? Why should I take AU and the points?
Sounds solid to me! If I were you, I'd go take out a second mortgage and bet it all!
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:23 pm to polydorr
That would obviously be the biggest factor in me not pulling the trigger on KSU. That and the fact that both of those wins were on the road.
But does anybody have any clue what to expect from KSU this year? I've not read the first word about them.
But does anybody have any clue what to expect from KSU this year? I've not read the first word about them.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:23 pm to MenloDawg
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What am I missing? Why should I take AU and the points?
None of what you posted will have any bearing on the game in 2014. I happen to think the lines for AU's early games (Arky, KSU) are too high, but KSU was barely over .500 in the middling Big 12 last year.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:24 pm to polydorr
quote:If Arky or Tenn were playing against KSU, it would be an even match
Both of those teams outweigh K State with talent - heavily
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:27 pm to Sigma
And that somehow has bearing on this year? I think we can look at AU's progression from 2012 to 2013 and know that prior year isn't always indicative of what we should expect.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:29 pm to MenloDawg
Most of those losses were with shitty Auburn teams.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:30 pm to MenloDawg
Kansas State will be mediocre at best in 2014.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:30 pm to diddydirtyAubie
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Most of those losses were with shitty Auburn teams.
Shhhhh! I love that people just don't know how bad@ss this AU team is gonna be...
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:31 pm to MenloDawg
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And that somehow has bearing on this year?
I was talking about AU's historical OOC record. Last year can tell you something, but the point I was trying to make is that the line does seem high, mostly because no one ever really knows what's going on in Manhattan, KS.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:33 pm to Sigma
Hold off on the bet.
If Auburn beats Arkansas, take Auburn.
If Arkansas beat Auburn, take Kansas State to win outright.
If Auburn beats Arkansas, take Auburn.
If Arkansas beat Auburn, take Kansas State to win outright.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:39 pm to parkjas2001
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So take Auburn.
Bert is fat
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:40 pm to Killean
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Hold off on the bet.
If Auburn beats Arkansas, take Auburn.
If Arkansas beat Auburn, take Kansas State to win outright.
Yeah, if this extremely unlikely shite happens and Auburn loses to the worst team in the conference in week one, take KSU.
You're a savant bro, how'd you come up with that pick
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:42 pm to Pettifogger
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Yeah, if this extremely unlikely shite happens and Auburn loses to the worst team in the conference in week one, take KSU.
You aren't playing Kentucky week one.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:43 pm to ChexMix
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If Arky or Tenn were playing against KSU, it would be an even match
That's a very PC attitude, but not at all true. Arky and Tennessee would do far better than K State if they had that weak arse schedule.
K State has solid coaching but middling success in the weakest power conference. Their talent was forgettable last year and they don't look to be any better this year.
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