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re: Athlon ranks all the 2017 CFB QB's, 1-130

Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:46 pm to
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If it's enough to warrant you posting about it, then getting upset about getting called on it, clearly something is irritating you...




So, it appears you don't have a grasp of the phrase your tried to use at all. Solid.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:50 pm to
Stealing Summers stats from another thread

Here are how the QBs perfromed against P5 teams. The bolded number is how Athlon ranked them

Just to get a better idea of performance against decent to good opponents the prior year.

Ranked by QB Rating
1Austin Allen(14), Jr (ARK) - 139.32 (18-13 TD-INT, 58.9%, 8.4 YPA)

2. Jalen Hurts(11), Fr (BAMA) - 135.65 (17-9 TD-INT, 61.8%, 7.3 YPA)

3. Jake Bentley(24), Fr (USC) - 130.52 (4-2 TD-INT, 63.3%, 6.9 YPA)

4. Danny Etling, Jr (63) (LSU) - 129.48 (7-3 TD-INT, 60.3%, 7.4 YPA)

6. Nick Fitzgerald (15), So (MSU) - 117.60 (12-6 TD-INT, 54.1%, 6.1 YPA)


9. Jacob Eason (21), Fr (UGA) - 116.02 (13-6 TD-INT, 54.4%, 6.2 YPA)

10. Kyle Shurmur (48), So (VAN) - 106.86 (6-9 TD-INT, 52.9%, 6.4 YPA)


I think that shows how Etling is being undersold. THey simply saw LSU qb and ranked him low
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 1:52 pm
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

So, it appears you don't have a grasp of the phrase your tried to use at all. Solid.


Perhaps you misunderstand what the word "irritate" means... I could have said triggered, butthurt, or any of the myriad terms used around here... I opted for the one that essentially indicates the least amount of acknowledgement. If you didn't care, what was the cause for the comment?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:52 pm to
Vs "ranked" opponents (I think time of game)

1. Stephen Johnson (3 games) - 149.13
2. Austin Allen (4 games) - 129.31
3. Jake Bentley (3 games) - 121.51
4. Jalen Hurts (6 games) - 119.16
5. Sean White (3 games) - 114.66
6. Danny Etling (4 games) - 109.43
7. Jacob Eason (2 games) - 105.92
8. Kyle Shurmur (2 games) - 94.67
9. Nick Fitzgerald (3 games) - 86.88
10. Drew Lock (3 games) - 77.47
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:53 pm to
Yea - and of course some of these guys get a bump from their non-throwing abilities (Hurts, Fitzgerald).

In terms of overall, I'd probably rank them (in terms of where I think they will be when the dust settles next season)

1. Allen
2. Bentley
3. Hurts
4. Fitzgerald
5. Eason
6. Etling
7. Patterson
8. Johnson
9. Lock
10. Shurmur

The upside is I don't think there is a "bad" QB in that mix. Shurmur is probably the closest.
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 1:55 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:55 pm to
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2. Austin Allen (14) (4 games) - 129.31
3. Jake Bentley (24) (3 games) - 121.51
4. Jalen Hurts (11) (6 games) - 119.16

6. Danny Etling (63) (4 games) - 109.43
7. Jacob Eason (21) (2 games) - 105.92
8. Kyle Shurmur (48) (2 games) - 94.67
9. Nick Fitzgerald (15) (3 games) - 86.88
10. Drew Lock (35) (3 games) - 77.47
Ok, same story applies
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:57 pm to
I still think you're off base.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:59 pm to
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Ok, same story applies


I do think it's crazy for Etling to be at 63 and Shurmur to be at 48.

Etling should be around 40-45 near Lock and Shurmur should be in the 50s. Eason probably around 25-30. IMHO.
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:02 pm to
link?
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:03 pm to
How he got a 4th * I'll never know.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94849 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:05 pm to
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I still think you're off base.
He is 20-40 spots behind multiple players he performed better than last year

I understand ranking them in the order george has, but to be that much gap between them is clearly Athlon not actually reviewing the data.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43789 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:06 pm to
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Perhaps you misunderstand what the word "irritate" means... I could have said triggered, butthurt, or any of the myriad terms used around here... I opted for the one that essentially indicates the least amount of acknowledgement


I don't care if you use irritated, butthurt, salty or even perturbed. None of them apply simply because I'm perceptive enough to notice other people's posting habits.

Are you catching on?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43789 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:07 pm to
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He is 20-40 spots behind multiple players he performed better than last year

I understand ranking them in the order george has, but to be that much gap between them is clearly Athlon not actually reviewing the data.


Ah, I missed your point. I thought you were trying to say that Etling was better than Eason. My mistake.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:18 pm to
I think if you put Eason and Etling on the same team, you would see that Eason is in fact at least 20 spots better.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94849 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:24 pm to
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I think if you put Eason and Etling on the same team, you would see that Eason is in fact at least 20 spots better.
So you think Eason would be 43 if he played for LSU instead of the 21 he is now?
Posted by tomsellecksmustache
Dallas, Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1786 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:33 pm to
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11. Jalen Hurts, Alabama
12. Jarrett Stidham, Auburn
14. Austin Allen, Arkansas
15. Nick Fitzgerald, Mississippi St.
21. Jacob Eason, Georgia
23. Shea Patterson, Ole Miss
24. Jake Bentley, S. Carolina
35. Drew Lock, Missouri
48. Kyle Shumur, Vanderbilt
62. Jarrett Guarantano, Tennessee
63. Danny Etling, LSU
76. Drew Barker, Kentucky
77. Felipe Franks, Florida
78. Kellen Mond, Texas A&M
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 3:40 pm to
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None of them apply simply because I'm perceptive enough to notice other people's posting habits.


Posted by jdevers
Member since Nov 2008
2059 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:26 pm to
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They picked the wrong A&M QB.


Depends on if they were thinking of the guy who starts the season or the one who finishes it.
Posted by TheJimBrown7
Member since Mar 2017
663 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:50 pm to
How in the world is Stidham ranked ahead of Austin Allen? Allen and Deshaun Watson were pretty much the only QBs who successfully threw the ball downfield against Bama, arguably the best secondary in the country. I will never understand the media's jerk fest for Auburn's off-season QBs.
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:08 pm to
It's crazy that sports media and opposing fans respect Austin more than our own shitty fanbase.

There are a handful of idiots who believe Austin is playing because his father has a desk job in the football office.

The worst are the Rafe Peavey worshipers. Rafe isn't going to start for SMU but they think he should have started for us.
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 5:09 pm
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