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Arky and Ole Miss defenses: what the hell happened?

Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:33 pm
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17247 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:33 pm
At the end of the 2014 season, the Pigs were #10 nationally in total defense and #9 in scoring defense. Meanwhile, the blACKBeARS were #13 in ypg and #1 in ppg - both units were at or near the top of the SEC in every defensive category.

Fast forward some 21 months, and in total defense Arky is #84 and Ole Freeze is #107, and the two squads are tied at #88 in scoring.

Same HCs, DCs, pretty much same staffs - what went wrong?
Posted by Freezus22
Da Boot
Member since Aug 2016
1609 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:34 pm to
We're just not very good. Have a ways to go.
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
16932 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:36 pm to
Can't speak for Arkansas but OM is just younger and not as talented.

Lost AA safety Trae Elston, AA DT Nkemdiche and unanimous AA selection Senquez Golson at CB off that 2014 D.





Posted by Arkiebarkie
Fayetteville,Ar
Member since Jan 2013
756 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:47 pm to
We were not expecting our defense to implode against the run, i still don't get it and it's a real head scratcher. Our OL, our biggest question mark before the season began is struggling to say the least. We are not improving on the OL at all, new lineman are getting their azz handed to them.....
Posted by mmjones87
we so cold
Member since Oct 2008
14206 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

unanimous AA selection Senquez Golson at CB off that 2014 D.


Had plenty of time to replace him. Not much of an excuse anymore.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25043 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:53 pm to
Ole Miss - no longer getting an incredibly disproportional lucky amount of turnovers, lost the paid players on their team that happened to be the best ones. Still playing 220 lbs players on the defensive line.
This post was edited on 10/24/16 at 1:55 pm
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30795 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

Ole Freeze is #107


Checks started bouncing. They're poor.

quote:

Arky is #84


Bert's fat.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7508 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:57 pm to
Martrell Spaight, Darius Philon and Trey Flowers left
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14089 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 2:15 pm to
Discipline. It's college football, not the military.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 2:17 pm to
Bacon OL is hot garbage.
Posted by WarBuzzard
Bammer
Member since Oct 2016
910 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 2:18 pm to
Reality happened
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

Ole Miss defenses: what the hell happened?

We lost all our good players and we don't win any defensive recruiting battles (especially at LB which is incredibly bad right now).
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64376 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Lost AA safety Trae Elston, AA DT Nkemdiche and unanimous AA selection Senquez Golson at CB off that 2014 D.

I was told before the season there wouldn't a be a huge drop off in the Ole Miss defense
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19224 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 3:01 pm to
riggierayreb, is it fair to say that a lack of quality depth has been a factor? From LSU's experience we know that takes time to develop & it wasn't until Coach Miles finally got some that we went on that winning streak, culminating in that 13-0 regular season. ( that "other" game never happened in our history books). Saw a lot of players limping off, did not notice many returning. How banged up are you for the rest of the season? That player who was booted from the bench by a coach, according to the broadcasters, what is his status, any flack coming from that? A fun crowd pre game, reminded me of the old Johnny Reb/Fighting Tigers days.
Posted by Zchlsu
Twin Peaks, Washington
Member since Jan 2011
6023 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 3:07 pm to
Maybe if ole miss defenders would stop fighting each other and play they wouldn't be so shitty
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18034 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

Bacon OL is hot garbage


Outside of Ragnow, you are very correct.
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
16932 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

is it fair to say that a lack of quality depth has been a factor?



I'm in my midthirties and that's been a problem at Ole Miss my entire lifetime.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16520 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 3:58 pm to
^^^ Pretty Accurate.
Posted by DingDongEddieStrong
Member since Aug 2013
3779 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 4:00 pm to
The narrative that Hugh Freeze cheats is laughable when you look at our depth chart.
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