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Arkansas has a new OL coach

Posted on 1/9/16 at 12:54 pm
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 12:54 pm
Bert's coaching hires are eerily similar to Nolan Richardson's system hubris.

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This post was edited on 1/9/16 at 12:58 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 12:59 pm to
Yes because all of his hires have failed...
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 1:09 pm to
Starting center at Michigan.

Offensive line coach and running game coordinator for a college team that had great success running the ball.

Offensive line coach for NFL team that had great success running the ball.

Has worked with TE's before.

Sorry, I just don't see how not being from the south and not having SEC experience is any sort of significant negative. You think a recruit will be like "This school is great. Close to home, good academics, they put players in the NFL...but that guy who's recruiting me, he's from Illinois...frick him and his Yankee arse. I'm signing with Joe Bob because he's southern!"
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 1:18 pm to
It's not about the immediate relationship w/ a potential recruit.

it's about the relationships w/ the feeder schools. Alex Collins absolutely would not be at Arkansas if Bret Bielema and Charlie Partridge didn't have a great relationship w/ Alex's HS coach.

Alex wanted to get away from home to have a better chance at success, If Bert was still at Wisconsin, Collins would have been a Heisman contender this year as a Badger.

The fight for assistant coaches in the SEC is tied to their recruiting connections.

We're not beating out Michigan, Ohio St., ND, Mich. St. Penn St. etc. Detroit and Grand Rapids and Ypsilanti blue chippers. Outside of the OL, Bielema's program hasn't really attracted much attention from national level recruits outside of the states that touch the Arkansas borders.

Knowing how to win in the SEC isn't the same as winning the Big 10 or the MAC.
Posted by presidenthog
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 1:33 pm to
we will see how he does next year. this year he doesn't have alot of time to recruit.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 1:40 pm to
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It's not about the immediate relationship w/ a potential recruit.

it's about the relationships w/ the feeder schools. Alex Collins absolutely would not be at Arkansas if Bret Bielema and Charlie Partridge didn't have a great relationship w/ Alex's HS coach.

Alex wanted to get away from home to have a better chance at success, If Bert was still at Wisconsin, Collins would have been a Heisman contender this year as a Badger.

The fight for assistant coaches in the SEC is tied to their recruiting connections.

We're not beating out Michigan, Ohio St., ND, Mich. St. Penn St. etc. Detroit and Grand Rapids and Ypsilanti blue chippers. Outside of the OL, Bielema's program hasn't really attracted much attention from national level recruits outside of the states that touch the Arkansas borders.

Knowing how to win in the SEC isn't the same as winning the Big 10 or the MAC.


Couldn't you say most of this after Bert hired Enos. You make great points but I'll give Bert the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 1:43 pm to
I think it's a good hire as far as teaching and technique. He's been a part of some very good rushing attacks. As far as recruiting, obviously that's yet to be seen.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 1:44 pm to
I do give Bielema the benefit of the doubt too. He's got a great track record, however, it'd be nice to not always be starting 130 yards out in a 100 yard dash.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

I do give Bielema the benefit of the doubt too. He's got a great track record, however, it'd be nice to not always be starting 130 yards out in a 100 yard dash.


Fair enough, this hire doesn't really have me fired up or anything but I felt the same way when Enos was announced. Will be interested to see the press conference.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 1:49 pm to
When it comes to OL coach, you'd rather have teaching over recruiting... obviously, guys like Pittman that can do both are amazing, but that's rare.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Arkansas has a new OL coach


Did Bert eat the old one?
Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 1:51 pm to
Why didn't y'all hire A.J. Ricker? He's still available.
This post was edited on 1/9/16 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Quicksilver
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

When it comes to OL coach, you'd rather have teaching over recruiting... obviously, guys like Pittman that can do both are amazing, but that's rare.




You don't hire an assistant coach for technique. Virtually any OL coach can teach technique. You need a recruiter.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14215 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

You don't hire an assistant coach for technique. Virtually any OL coach can teach technique. You need a recruiter.


Hell no, Oline is the most technical position group.

Recruiters are RB, DB, and TE coaches.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

You don't hire an assistant coach for technique.


True you hire them on ability to develop o-linemen's technique and teach/explain blocking schemes.

quote:

Virtually any OL coach can teach technique.


But not every OL coach can get 18-22 year olds to understand and use those techniques.

quote:

You need a recruiter.


Need a talent developer who also can recruit.

Posted by Snizzzo
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

I think it's a good hire as far as teaching and technique.


There is excellent young talent on campus. If the guy is a teacher, he will be a huge asset.
Posted by Snizzzo
Stankonia
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

You don't hire an assistant coach for technique. Virtually any OL coach can teach technique. You need a recruiter.



Throughout the history of modern football, well-seasoned, technically sound Olines have had success more than any other position group.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8596 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

Bert's coaching hires are eerily similar to Nolan Richardson's system hubris.



I don't see any similarities at all. Richardson just seemed to hire yes men and I certainly don't see that with Bielema's hires. Nolan hired family, similar to Nutt, but I'm not aware of any family on Bielema's staff. Now I'm puzzled how you even came up with that idea?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32757 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 5:18 pm to
He is no Pittman.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 5:57 pm to
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He is no Pittman.


Maybe not, but he has the advantage of having Dan Enos as OC instead Dick Chaney.
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