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Are Georgia and Florida the two most important football states in the SEC?
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:06 pm
1. Everyone recruits there
2. Iron sharpens iron: LSU vs. UF; TDSOR; AU vs. UF
3. Historic figures: Herschel, Emmitt, Tebow, OBC, etc..
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2. Iron sharpens iron: LSU vs. UF; TDSOR; AU vs. UF
3. Historic figures: Herschel, Emmitt, Tebow, OBC, etc..
4. Chime in
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:08 pm to 212ZonePress
define "important".
I mean, the SEC isn't what it is without bama, so there's that. But simply as far as recruiting yeah and that's not debatable.
It's a really broad question.
I mean, the SEC isn't what it is without bama, so there's that. But simply as far as recruiting yeah and that's not debatable.
It's a really broad question.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:09 pm to 212ZonePress
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Are Georgia and Florida the two most important football states in the SEC? by 212ZonePress
I would say the state of Alabama is pretty important. Not from a recruiting standpoint but from a historical standpoint.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:09 pm to 212ZonePress
Atlanta without a doubt. That is the epi center of SEC recruiting.
Louisiana is important for Louisiana and Alabama. It wasn't that long ago that Alabama didn't get some of the northern Louisiana recruits, but lately they have been getting some studs out of that area and it has been paying off on the football field.
A&M needs Texas without a doubt.
Louisiana is important for Louisiana and Alabama. It wasn't that long ago that Alabama didn't get some of the northern Louisiana recruits, but lately they have been getting some studs out of that area and it has been paying off on the football field.
A&M needs Texas without a doubt.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:10 pm to nebraskafaninwi
Mobile, alabama is another region with a high level of success. I don't know anything about that area so I don't know why it has a high success rate.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:11 pm to nebraskafaninwi
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Mobile, alabama is another region with a high level of success
he wasn't strictly asking about recruiting only. If he was, it'd be GA/FL and everyone else.
Mobile AL isn't "important" to the sec, in the overall grand scheme of things.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:13 pm to WG_Dawg
"Important" would mean all things combined - "history, recruiting, conference success, brand, rivalries" and "State" means the entire state not individual schools....
1. Florida
2. Georgia
3. Alabama
4. Louisiana
5. Tennessee
6. the rest....
1. Florida
2. Georgia
3. Alabama
4. Louisiana
5. Tennessee
6. the rest....
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:17 pm to 212ZonePress
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the entire state not individual schools....
then there's no way alabama is 3rd. They'd have to be 1 by default almost since 2 of the big 6 are in that state.
Georgia would be 2nd since UGA is a tick better than UF historically, we have sent countless important people to various schools, we have the epicenter of the SE United States, the CFB HOF, etc.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:19 pm to WG_Dawg
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Georgia would be 2nd since UGA is a tick better than UF historically
Prepare for the mouth breathers!
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:21 pm to Dawg in Beaumont
Nah, I think they know when talking about all time it's true. The national titles are roughly equivalent dpeending on what services you want to use, we have a good bit more SEC titles, more overall wins, higher win percentage, own the head to head series, etc. From 1990-now it's not even close (in their favor of course) but all time they're a notch behind.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:22 pm to nebraskafaninwi
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Atlanta without a doubt. That is the epi center of SEC recruiting.
Agreed... along with the sheer number of D1 recruits in the Atlanta metro area, the CFB Hall of Fame is now located in Atlanta. The most successful/premier Kick-off Classic is held in Atlanta. The 1st & still best, most viewed CCGame is held in Atlanta. The CFA Peach Bowl is now in the playoff rotation & is a Big 6 Bowl...
I would argue that Atlanta is the epicentre of College Football nationwide....
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:24 pm to dallasga6
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I would argue that Atlanta is the epicentre of College Football nationwide..
you would have to try to make a case against it honestly, instead of making a case for it.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:26 pm to WG_Dawg
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Nah, I think they know when talking about all time it's true. The national titles are roughly equivalent dpeending on what services you want to use, we have a good bit more SEC titles, more overall wins, higher win percentage, own the head to head series, etc. From 1990-now it's not even close (in their favor of course) but all time they're a notch behind.
Of course that is all spot on. I just have less faith in mouth breathers than you. Hopefully you're correct.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:26 pm to 212ZonePress
Last I checked Georgia had more players on SEC rosters than any other state and Ga players (specifically Metro Atl players)are the life blood for UT,USCe,AU,
Clemson and Vandy. Bama and Florida have also stepped up their Ga recruiting a good bit in the last 15 yrs or so.
LSU,A&M,MSU and Arky all can get by without going in to the state.
Clemson and Vandy. Bama and Florida have also stepped up their Ga recruiting a good bit in the last 15 yrs or so.
LSU,A&M,MSU and Arky all can get by without going in to the state.
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:29 pm to 212ZonePress
For the state of Georgia to reach its full value to the SEC, we need to add the best team in the state back to the conference
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:30 pm to RD Dawg
Too many programs survive off recruits from FL and GA, so without them the SEC would dry up. TX and LA produce the next most recruits, by they feed only a few programs.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:32 pm to 212ZonePress
With population growth everywhere, it's changing a little.
From a recruiting perspective, you can only sign 25 guys a year (lol).
25 years ago, a school like Ole Miss had very slim pickings from their own state, talent-wise... and they were competeing with outside schools for the handful per year.
It won't be long before population growth in all the states, without an equal growth in the size of football rosters, will create a demographic environment that makes the smaller states (pop. wise) self-sustainable without having to go to Georgia or Florida to supplement their signing class.
To explain it so even auburnphan can understand-
Let's say one out of every 1000 high school football players is a 5 star.
If Kentucky has 2000 high school football players, stats suggest they'll have 2 5-stars each year.
If population grows and Kentucky has 10,000 high school football players, then they'll have 10 5-stars each year.
Obviously the numbers don't work out that way, but it does illustrate the trend Im trying to communicate.
It's the same thing politicians are talking about when they say they can increase revenue by "making the pie bigger."
The known-unknown factor here is whether we start to see the emergence of more "6 Stars" that we would have called a "once in a generation" player just a couple decades ago.
That would negate any gains that the lower-populated states gain in sheer population growth against the big states.
From a recruiting perspective, you can only sign 25 guys a year (lol).
25 years ago, a school like Ole Miss had very slim pickings from their own state, talent-wise... and they were competeing with outside schools for the handful per year.
It won't be long before population growth in all the states, without an equal growth in the size of football rosters, will create a demographic environment that makes the smaller states (pop. wise) self-sustainable without having to go to Georgia or Florida to supplement their signing class.
To explain it so even auburnphan can understand-
Let's say one out of every 1000 high school football players is a 5 star.
If Kentucky has 2000 high school football players, stats suggest they'll have 2 5-stars each year.
If population grows and Kentucky has 10,000 high school football players, then they'll have 10 5-stars each year.
Obviously the numbers don't work out that way, but it does illustrate the trend Im trying to communicate.
It's the same thing politicians are talking about when they say they can increase revenue by "making the pie bigger."
The known-unknown factor here is whether we start to see the emergence of more "6 Stars" that we would have called a "once in a generation" player just a couple decades ago.
That would negate any gains that the lower-populated states gain in sheer population growth against the big states.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:40 pm to Irons Puppet
History-wise, Alabama is EASILY at the top of the list. All things considered though, GA and FL are the top two in my estimation...
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:43 pm to auburnphan23
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For the state of Georgia to reach its full value to the SEC, we need to add the best team in the state back to the conference
Did Florida State move 30 miles to the North?
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:49 pm to 212ZonePress
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