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Are Divisions pointless in Football now?

Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted by holdmydak
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:49 pm
They were created (I'm assuming) to cut down on transportation time and cost back in the day. Today, each SEC program has more money than they know what do with, and transportation is most definitely not an issue. Each team would only have at most 6 away games per year, moniteraly, that's a drop in the bucket.

Let each team have their annual rivalries, then put the rest of the teams on a cycle. I think it would put the top 2 teams in the SEC in the conference championship game almost every year, which should be the goal.

State hasn't played Florida since 2010, without divisions, you would play each team at least every other year. It would make the schedules more fun and the conference more fluid.

What's the need for divisions?
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
16626 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:50 pm to
In the SEC they are.

SEC West and then the rest.
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:51 pm to
No they most certainly are not pointless.
Posted by holdmydak
Member since Feb 2017
378 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:51 pm to
Well what's the point?
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
7908 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:52 pm to
Yes
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:56 pm to
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Let each team have their annual rivalries, then put the rest of the teams on a cycle

How would you apply this idea to schools like Auburn, who has Bama and Georgia, like Ole Miss, who has LSU and State, or like Tennessee, who has Bama and Florida, when schools like aTm and Arkansas either don't have poison-your-trees level rivalries or hate Texas more than they'd ever let themselves hate the SEC?
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:58 pm to
i'm not up to date on my maths... but i think for it to be pointless the divisor would have to be zero.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48889 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:03 pm to
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How would you apply this idea to schools like Auburn, who has Bama and Georgia, like Ole Miss, who has LSU and State, or like Tennessee, who has Bama and Florida, when schools like aTm and Arkansas either don't have poison-your-trees level rivalries or hate Texas more than they'd ever let themselves hate the SEC?



the schools with no rivalries get the nasty left overs
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95871 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:05 pm to
I'd be interested to see how the conference would perform with no divisions and top 2 go to Atlanta.

Sure the West would dominate right now, but I'd be interested to see how things shake out in the long run.
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:09 pm to
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the schools with no rivalries get the nasty left overs

What schools would rather play the likes of Bama, Florida, LSU, or Georgia over the likes of Vandy, Kentucky, Mizzou, or State? Auburn's already trying to get into the East to avoid the West's murderer's row as it is
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:12 pm to
Yes. They're no longer required for having a conference title game.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:14 pm to
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SEC West and then the rest.


quote:

LSU Fan

Posted by TallulahtheTiger
Member since Dec 2016
157 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:15 pm to
They weren't pointless so long as the NCAA required divisions in order to stage a conference title game. Now that that rule is gone, they do seem pretty pointless. Perhaps they could be justified to protect regional rivalries & keep travel costs down; but in the SEC at least, it seems that divisional play has cost the conference some of its best annual rivalries, while the imbalance between the 2 divisions has frequently resulted in title-game duds.

Really, there's not much downside to abolishing divisions & having the 1st- & 2nd-place teams play for the conference title. We'd be more likely to get a competitive game in the title match, while diminishing the chances of a nightmare scenario in which the conference is denied a spot in the College Football Playoff when a legitimate title contender is upset by a lesser team.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95871 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:23 pm to
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Yes. They're no longer required for having a conference title game.

When did this change? I thought it was still a requirement. TIL.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

They were created (I'm assuming) to cut down on transportation time and cost back in the day


They were created so Title games could happen(round robin ability with larger conferences).


Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

They weren't pointless so long as the NCAA required divisions in order to stage a conference title game. Now that that rule is gone, they do seem pretty pointless.


Rule is not gone, there is only an exception for smaller conferences.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42347 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:33 pm to
I really don't see the purpose of divisions in any sport for that matter.

I don't think you need divisions for football.

If #1 and #2 are from the west or east than they should play for sec title in championship game.
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:37 pm to
It also goes into the idea that every week of conference play is a playoff game. If it's purely 1 v 2, you'd likely see a lot of Western rematches if the schedule makes geography a factor
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63859 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:39 pm to
Sure why not. Especially after we add Texas, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Clemson, and Penn State to the SEC.


Yes I understand that's an odd number of adds, but we are about to lose one.
Posted by gatorsownfsu81
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Aug 2012
801 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:41 pm to
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In the SEC they are.

SEC West and then the rest.
that's a funny way of spelling Alabama.
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