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Any non-LSU fans think the CEO model will succeed?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:01 pm
Ed O has basically said, ok I'm going to hire elite coordinators and let them coach. I'm going to be the face of the program and recruit, motivate, and play to my strengths.
The LSU fan base is fairly split on whether this is going to work. If you think it will, this is your chance to go on the record now before the season starts.
The LSU fan base is fairly split on whether this is going to work. If you think it will, this is your chance to go on the record now before the season starts.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 5:01 pm
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:09 pm to RidiculousHype
If he is a good ceo, and hires good coaches then yes. I would go this route myself. Fulmer succeeded with it, and couldnt find a way to replace cutcliffe each time he left chasing a hc gig.
Problem is making sure you have good replacements to step in if a coordinator leaves or has to be cut. Also, it's not so easy to cut someone loose anymore, so that hampers things unless contracts start to change. Lots of little things in contracts that make quick good decisions hard to make.
Hope it works for him, and he knows his strengths. Good for him for not being to proud to admit it.
Problem is making sure you have good replacements to step in if a coordinator leaves or has to be cut. Also, it's not so easy to cut someone loose anymore, so that hampers things unless contracts start to change. Lots of little things in contracts that make quick good decisions hard to make.
Hope it works for him, and he knows his strengths. Good for him for not being to proud to admit it.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:13 pm to RidiculousHype
The ceo model can certainly work, but not sure it can work if ed O is the ceo.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:14 pm to RidiculousHype
Problem is the longer it works the less effective his strategy. Every pay increase he gets is less for his coordinators
He's at what, 3.5? And they are around 2 a piece?
No way he stays under 5 for long if we are posting double digit wins, and no way we keep Aranda/Canada as coordinators for the long haul if they are the brains.
So in 3 years when O is making 6 how much does alleva give him to spend?
Rooting for O, that's my main concern though
He's at what, 3.5? And they are around 2 a piece?
No way he stays under 5 for long if we are posting double digit wins, and no way we keep Aranda/Canada as coordinators for the long haul if they are the brains.
So in 3 years when O is making 6 how much does alleva give him to spend?
Rooting for O, that's my main concern though
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:15 pm to RidiculousHype
I think so. He will let his coordinators do their thing. He can recruit. And we finally have someone who will develop our QB's, regardless if they're pro style or duel threat. That is the biggest thing we've lacked in the past.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:15 pm to TOSOV
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I would go this route myself.
And when I say I would go this route myself I mean that I would find solid good coordinators that just don't want to be a HC. As long as they don't stay complacent this will help long term with little disruption. Let the position coaches be the young new age ones that are chasing the promotion.
If cutcliffe was like Chavis here Fulmer, would still be at UT winning 10+ a year.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:21 pm to RidiculousHype
Why wouldn't it succeed? The last two national champions had this model. Alabama and Clemson
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:23 pm to RidiculousHype
I will agree that I'd hire great assistants, and coordinators under me.
However to disagree with you Ed O is the head football coach. If someone is purely successful because of others then why is he needed? Why wasn't Aranda the one appointed to head coach?
Just too many questions, and the biggest is did LSU make the right decision. We shall see.
However to disagree with you Ed O is the head football coach. If someone is purely successful because of others then why is he needed? Why wasn't Aranda the one appointed to head coach?
Just too many questions, and the biggest is did LSU make the right decision. We shall see.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:28 pm to rmnldr
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Alabama and Clemson
Clemson yes
Alabama.. NO
Thats Sabans Defense
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:32 pm to RidiculousHype
I think it'll be an effective way to keep LSUs head above water until next good coach comes along. Basically what I mean is I don't think LSU will enter into a black hole backwards like Alabama did in the "mike era" and Tennessee post-fulmer.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:35 pm to RidiculousHype
Same strategy seems to be working for nick Saban. So i say he has a good chance at success
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:37 pm to RidiculousHype
Lol no it won't
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:41 pm to RidiculousHype
this is what every good coach does lol
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:50 pm to RidiculousHype
If they frick up... will Ed jump on them and if he does will they understand him.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 9/1/17 at 6:04 pm to crazyLSUstudent
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Same strategy seems to be working for nick Saban. So i say he has a good chance at success
And to think, you didn't need any help looking stupid but went and typed this anyway. Damn bro.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 6:15 pm to RidiculousHype
Les made it work for a while, but a few bad coordinators can break him easily. That's why having a Saban or a Jimbo is better for the long term since they never have to worry about their side of the ball. Dabo has had a lot of continuity with his DC. Same with Fulmer and Chavis.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 6:16 pm to RidiculousHype
No
Posted on 9/1/17 at 6:37 pm to momentoftruth87
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If someone is purely successful because of others then why is he needed? Why wasn't Aranda the one appointed to head coach?
Aranda is Associate Head Coach.
The head coach is more than a coach on the field. He is the face of the program and has to meet with the press and schmooze with boosters.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 6:45 pm to RidiculousHype
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Ed O has basically said, ok I'm going to hire elite coordinators and let them coach. I'm going to be the face of the program and recruit, motivate, and play to my strengths.
It has worked pretty well for Dabo
Posted on 9/1/17 at 6:50 pm to rmnldr
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Why wouldn't it succeed? The last two national champions had this model. Alabama and Clemson
You can add Urban Meyer to that too. He let Herman do his thing. Not sure how it played out with Mullen at Florida, but probably the same.
Meyer is kind of weird in a way. He was really involved with the Florida "Fork" of the spread offense (Tebow power, as opposed to Oregon stuff).
But he also seems to stay out of the way of his coordinators. Anyone follow him closely know any different? That's a take from someone who saw his teams play on tv a few times a season. Reality may be different behind the scenes.
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