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Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:30 am to Gradual_Stroke
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That isn't a zero. That is our gaping anus
Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:38 am to Old Sarge
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Whe kliff left he gave one of his favorite young but inexperienced coaches a shot at OC, it was a bad decision. And almost cost Sumlin his job. Looks like Mazxone is a solid hire.
Sumlin's loyalty is a double-edge sword. I think his relationships and personal loyalty are what in large part got him to where he is now in life. People who know him DO like him (with the exception of Dave Christiansen) and particularity among coaches his is well regarded and he has always prioritized keeping his coaching relationships alive (he and Stoops are still friends for example; he's friends with Spurrier as well). HOWEVER; his tendency is to give ends to his friends in the form of gigs they may not be ready for, and then to give them more leash than they have earned and be VERY hesitant to fire them, even when it is obvious they have failed, to the point that we've had to tell him his job is on the line if he doesn't. His BFF McKinney was OC before Spaz-it-all and both were his buddies and both were terrible. We had to eventually go through all of Sumlin's buddies before arriving at a real professional in Mazzone. To his credit though, unlike Les Miles, Sumlin DID eventually make the changes, even if he had to be pressured to do it. There are coaches, and Les is a great example and Mack Brown is another, who are either unwilling to change or only do it when it is way, way too late.
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 10:39 am
Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:42 am to jvilletiger25
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We'll see what happens when Knight is gone. He won the game against us single handedly with his scrambling ability.
Knight was adequate. That's all we need him to be.
That game was more about Auburn having a bunch of issues, rather than Aggy actually being good. Look at the stats and not the score, and you seriously have a hard time guessing who won the game. Auburn had 1 fumble, but 7 more 1st downs. The only significant difference is that Auburn gave up big plays. Trayveon Williams broke for 89 yards. Reynolds had a 51 yard reception. Speedy had a 40 yard reception. Auburn's biggest play was a 33 yard run by Pettway.
Aggy is WAY overrated. We'll beat SC and probably hang with 10-R-C for 3 quarters, but we will be exposed during the last half of the schedule.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:59 am to KaiserSoze99
Upvoted tbqh imho fwiw iyam
Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:59 am to jvilletiger25
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We'll see what happens when Knight is gone. He won the game against us single handedly with his scrambling ability.
Eh, we're basically handicapped by Knight at the same time though. It's a double-edged sword. He is not a good passer. We have HAD to gear the offense toward his running ability with options (and to their credit, the coaches at least realized they had to do that) in order to get any production out of him. He's an overall 'meh' QB. With our D, playmakers at RB and WR, and vastly improved OL, that is good enough.
Our offense with Knight has evolved game-to-game as well. So it's been hard to scheme against because it is a work-in-progress that is being continually tailored, not only to him, but also to the progression of our very young OL as well. I don't know if we could get the production we are getting if opposing staffs had an off-season to scheme against us with a full year of film of us as a settled offense and Knight coming back. Fortunately or unfortunately, he isn't coming back. We'll be a ? for D coordinators again next year.
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 11:05 am
Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:03 am to Triple Daves
Why are we giving it to Ford if he is only gaining 5 ypc?
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:03 am to Rodo
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:07 am to Rodo
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Why are we giving it to Ford if he is only gaining 5 ypc?
Because the purpose of Ford is to soften up opposing defenses with body-blows for a half before putting in Williams who is quicker and shiftier when they are used to Ford and tired. It works.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:08 am to Triple Daves
We don't run the air raid. We have never run the air raid. Oklahoma doesn't run the air raid. If you're going to write about football, you should know what the air raid is.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:09 am to KaiserSoze99
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Aggy is WAY overrated. We'll beat SC and probably hang with 10-R-C for 3 quarters, but we will be exposed during the last half of the schedule.
The schedule after Bama is easier than the schedule before Bama.
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That game was more about Auburn having a bunch of issues, rather than Aggy actually being good.
I'm not saying A&M doesn't have issues. We do. And so does Auburn. But they're a pretty good team. And so is LSU, who just got beat by Auburn. And so is Arkansas, who just got hammered by 3 TDs by A&M.
We have issues. We're a 9-3 team, I think. But we're better than you're giving us credit for being.
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 11:13 am
Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:09 am to AstroAg17
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We don't run the air raid. We have never run the air raid. Oklahoma doesn't run the air raid. If you're going to write about football, you should know what the air raid is.
Ehhh... we did under Kliff.
I agree that we don't now and didn't under Spaz.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:13 am to Cooter Davenport
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Eh, we're basically handicapped by Knight at the same time though.
All I know is him being able to scramble out of trouble on 3rd down won that game for you guys. Your Oline was getting blown up by our Dline. I was impressed.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:15 am to Triple Daves
I think it speaks to Sumlin's philosophy on the game -- he's not just a "Stoops disciple" or a branch on the "Air Raid Coaching Tree."
He's a CEO-type coach who will absolutely make changes to advance the program. He worked on the defense first, and when it became obvious the AR wasn't going to be a viable offensive scheme in a post-Manziel era (at least not with the players we were recruiting), he made the shift away from it.
He lets his coaches coach, but there is some obvious accountability with their on-field performance.
He's a CEO-type coach who will absolutely make changes to advance the program. He worked on the defense first, and when it became obvious the AR wasn't going to be a viable offensive scheme in a post-Manziel era (at least not with the players we were recruiting), he made the shift away from it.
He lets his coaches coach, but there is some obvious accountability with their on-field performance.
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 11:16 am
Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:15 am to Cooter Davenport
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the purpose of Ford is to soften up opposing defenses with body-blows for a half before putting in Williams who is quicker and shiftier when they are used to Ford and tired. It works.
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:16 am to Triple Daves
Stopped reading at:
Oklahoma been air raid since Leach was the OC 20 years ago.
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After losing his job at Oklahoma when the Sooners converted to the air raid
Oklahoma been air raid since Leach was the OC 20 years ago.
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 11:18 am
Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:28 am to Quicksilver
I think they moved away from it a bit with Knight. He just wasn't accurate enough to run it... except for that one game against Bama. 
Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:39 am to jvilletiger25
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All I know is him being able to scramble out of trouble on 3rd down won that game for you guys. Your Oline was getting blown up by our Dline
We were 2-15 on third down. We also had 231 yards on 37 carries (6.2). So not sure if you watched the game or not
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 11:40 am
Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:42 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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We were 2-15 on third down. We also had 231 yards on 37 carries (6.2). So not sure if you watched the game or not
Pastor Shane preaching today from the book of Numbers
Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:52 am to FrankWhite'56
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he's not just a "Stoops disciple" or a branch on the "Air Raid Coaching Tree."
He's not anyone's disciple. He's not a true believer type of guy. He's a pragmatist and a people person. He's friends with Stoops, but he's not his child. He's buddies with Kliff still and Spurrier - and a bunch of other coaches - and he's gone to the one-back clinics, but he never sold his soul to that or pledged balls-out HUNH 5 wide super-wide-split Air Raid his undying fidelity and everlasting love, like The Dread Pirate Leach has. The Air Raid is like libertarianism. It's contrarian, it's intellectually seductive, and there are a lot of people who are mentally enthralled with being the person who makes it work and makes everyone see the light, but it's not happening whole-hog. Certain parts of it are certainly being and have been absorbed into and shaped modern football strategy, but the perfect undiluted philosophy is untenable in practice, long-term, when playing SEC West caliber competition, without a once in a lifetime freak running QB.
I think Sumlin probably always WANTED to run more of a physical ball control program in the SEC, but he would have been KILLED trying to do that from the start with the players we had. Our only chance for wins, in conference, was to try to win shootouts. At least it gave us a 50/50 chance most of the time, whereas, back then, with that roster, relying on our non-existent defense and trying to run the ball would have had us going 0-fer in conference. He had to bide his time and recruit the Larrys and Joes he needed.
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 12:02 pm
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