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re: All other teams on here would have fired Mullen before now....
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:32 am to Ole Messcort
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:32 am to Ole Messcort
So where does State rank in the SEC in Mullen tenure? I would be shocked he State was in the top half of the conference. how does his record compare to Petrino , Franklin and Spurier(at SC) . Mullen is sticking around at State helps his record compared to the others who built the programs up and left.
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:07 am to Dr RC
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He lost to South Alabama at home in year 8. Sorry but that can't be waived away w/a magic "but Moo State" wand.
This may be true, but when is the last time aTm beat LSU by 30. When is the last time aTm has just beaten LSU? He has done it twice in the last 4 years, so it kind of balances things out.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 8:09 am
Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:28 am to Dr RC
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He lost to South Alabama at home in year 8. Sorry but that can't be waived away w/a magic "but Moo State" wand.
There is no excuse for losing that game. We did have our first year starting QB turn the season around though and smoke #4 A&M and OM.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:15 am to deeprig9
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Mullen got extra time at MSU because recruiting is shitty because it is a shite school that players don't want to play at.
Mullen spotted Dak; he saw potential in Fitzgerald even before he was the starting QB in HS. Even though Fitz grew up pulling for Georgia, ONLY Middle Tenn St and Mississippi State offered. He will be the 'difference' in the game on Sat.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:34 am to tjv305
Do you want to know MSU record the last 9 years or do you want to compare Mullen to 3 coaches that don't coach in the SEC anymore? Confusing question bud. How does Shark frickers record compare to Urban Meyer or Spurrier at Florida? See how that's kinda a dumb question
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:37 am to deeprig9
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I'm much more impressed by what Pinkel did with 3 Star players than what Mullen has done.
Pinkel had the advantage of competing against UGA and the rest of the crappy east every year. Mullen and State would've had the same if not greater success if in the East.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:38 am to Croomismyname
agree.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:38 am to Croomismyname
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Mullen may be on all of the watch lists now for HC, but few would have given him the time MSU did. Few fanbases would have been as patient. Say what you want, but tis true.
I agree. I tell my friends that are Clemson fans all the time Auburn would have fired Dabo when he lost to USCe and got his tail handed to him in the Orange Bowl. All we would have talked about was the 7-6 season and not winning the games that matter, etc...Different schools have different pressure both real and perceived.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 9:39 am
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:42 am to Tigerman97
And the fact that he had no head coaching experience would've made the pressure that much greater in my opinion. I think a guy who comes in from a HC position with prior success has a little greater margin for error than a guy coming in with only coordinator experience. You don't do it in the first couple of years the assumption is you don't have what it takes to be a HC.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 11:18 am to Croomismyname
Mullen is a great coach and kudos to the MSU admin and the MSU fan base for being patient. Patience is not something you see much these days and I think it is refreshing. It would be a shame if Mullen was lured away but that is a distinct possibility as fanbases at other schools are far less patient.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 11:54 am to Gatorbait2008
Florida talking S about coaching hires is funny.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 12:36 pm to yatesdog38
Well even our shark fricking coach already have over twice as many wins against teams that finished ranked. 
Posted on 9/21/17 at 12:43 pm to Korin
Most teams would have fired Mullen after a 5-7 season and a loss to South Alabama in year 7/8 or whatever - Correct.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 12:45 pm to Gatorbait2008
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Um...because you were the worst team in the conference with Vandy. So no. Your success and continued success is the limit for any coach as Miss State. It's literally impossible to win a national title there.
It's why no one has...at anything.
This is the truth. State at their best isnt gonna get you a title. Never has and never will.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 12:55 pm to Croomismyname
It was the same thing with Pinkel at Mizzou - he's done a good job but at a certain point, it's time to actually win something.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 12:56 pm to Korin
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Well even our shark fricking coach already have over twice as many wins against teams that finished ranked.
This is such a skewed line of thinking. A big part of the reason they don't end up ranked is because MSU beat them. It's like saying half your girlfriends in college ended up virgins after you fricked them.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 1:02 pm to Ole Messcort
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A big part of the reason they don't end up ranked is because MSU beat them.
As if this only applies to MSU.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 1:03 pm to Croomismyname
Yes, it is true. However, he would have had ti win bigger at the other schools because he would have access to better resources than he does at MSU. If he came to UGA, for instance, he would have access to better recruiting, tradition, facilities, etc....therefore, he should win bigger at UGA. What he has done at MSU is pretty darn good, but that is because he is at MSU.
I would not expect any other coach in the SEC (Including Saban) to have the same success at MSU as they do at their current school.
I would not expect any other coach in the SEC (Including Saban) to have the same success at MSU as they do at their current school.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 1:34 pm to DawgsLife
Hell no they wouldn't do as well as they do at bigtime programs. Coaching at state definitely is alot more challenging for one of those coaches just to compete, much less sustaining a winning program. Coaching at state is a huge step down from coaching at one of the big 6 programs. They just don't compare. Like you said, without the resources that a big 6 school provides, coaching at state would be a daunting task, even for saban. Hell, state isn't even the best program in the state of mississippi, that would be ole miss...and ole miss isn't much better. Coaching at one of the mississippi schools is a stepping stone for coaches, or its where coaches end up after being let go by another bigger school. It's not a destination job that's for sure. Not trying to put state or ole miss down or anything, they know it's true too. That's why it's such a huge deal for them to beat an LSU or a georgia, because it doesn't happen often. They're outclassed as a program.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 1:38 pm to GuiceTheGreat
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Hell, state isn't even the best program in the state of mississippi, that would be ole miss
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