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Alabama looks to be pulling away

Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:41 am
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:41 am
Great article in this Louisiana newspaper.

When it comes to LSU and the University of Alabama, it’s a great rivalry on the football field. But when the stadium lights go off and the two schools are compared academically, Alabama looks to be pulling away.

Alabama could boast that it is in the midst of an academic growth spurt and is attracting more of the prestigious National Merit Scholars than any other public university in the country.

LSU could counter that it is generally regarded as a more well-rounded university with greater course offerings available at a more affordable price.

What can’t be argued is that both schools have absorbed potentially devastating budget cuts over the past several years. While LSU is trying to hold onto what it had before the economy went south five years ago, Alabama prospered during the economic downturn, gaining momentum as the university increased the quality and quantity of its students and faculty.

Late last month, graduate student Nick Bertella was walking down The Strip, the section of University Boulevard that connects downtown Tuscaloosa with the University of Alabama campus. While mobs of shouting sorority women crisscrossed the street during their fall scavenger hunt, Bertella said that after seeing how different schools fared during the recession, he’s glad he chose Alabama over LSU in 2008.

Bertella considers LSU a good school, but the near constant expansion at Alabama— including new classroom buildings, new housing and new buses — confirmed to him that he made the right decision.

“I never really considered it as prestigious,” the 22-year-old marketing student said, “but now I see my degree differently. My opinion has definitely changed.”


More here
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:43 am to
And it starts...
Posted by jbond
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:44 am to
We better on the field. We better in the classroom. We better at teabagging.
Posted by Emiliooo
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:44 am to
No idea why the state of Louisiana has to be obsessed with the Alabama.
Posted by neutrino
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:49 am to
quote:

LSU could counter that it is generally retarded

fify
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:50 am to
I've lived in multiple cities in both states and I prefer Louisiana.

Although I must admit recently have been enjoying some of the outdoor recreation in the surrounding Birmingham area, Talladega Forest and Bankhead Forest and there are some pretty areas.

So there is that.

but Louisiana will always be superior, mainly because of the people.
Posted by BobBarker
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Graduates’ starting salaries:
LSU — $47,300
Alabama — $41,500
Graduates’ mid-career salaries:
LSU — $83,200
Alabama — $76,500


All that matters.
Posted by Bham4Tide
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:53 am to
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but Louisiana will always be superior, mainly because of the people and food.


fify


I love Louisiana. I go at least twice a year to visit my brother in NO . . . and to eat.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:54 am to
Cost of Living must be lower in Alabama. So it evens out. I guess, lol.
Posted by Five0
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:56 am to
Bob, think that has anything to do with the petroleum industry? Serious question.

Eta: why stop at undergrad?
This post was edited on 11/3/13 at 9:57 am
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:00 am to
quote:

All that matters.


Not really.

quote:

Alabama has grown its enrollment over the past decade from about 20,000 students in 2003 to just under 35,000 today. LSU, on the other hand, lost about 2,000 students over the same time, putting its current enrollment at just under 30,000


#decline
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:04 am to
Do these numbers include UAt UAb UAh? or just UAt?
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:06 am to
The Advocate had really pissed in their Wheaties this week when you couple this with Mathew Harris troll article in the Sports Section yesterday. They could have run this article any time but these two weeks and probably got a serious read but now you have to question their motives. Leaves one to wonder if the Advocate should move to Tuscaloosa...

When you break down the numbers they are still not very far apart. According to this article Bama was at one point about 10K - 12K students smaller than LSU???

Budget cut since 2008:

LSU — $129 million, 52 percent.

Alabama — $12.4 million, 33 percent.



In-state tuition:

LSU — $7,873

Alabama — $9,200



Out-of-state tuition:

LSU — $22,265

Alabama — $22,950



Enrollment:

LSU — 29,865

Enrollment — 33,602



Graduation rate:

LSU — 67 percent

Alabama — 67 percent



Retention Rate:

LSU— 84 percent

Alabama — 85 percent



Graduates’ starting salaries:

LSU — $47,300

Alabama — $41,500



Graduates’ mid-career salaries:

LSU — $83,200

Alabama — $76,500



Loan default rate:

LSU — 4.9 percent

Alabama 5.6 percent



Median borrowing:

LSU: $172 per month

Alabama $233 per month



Student to faculty ratio:

LSU — 23 to 1

Alabama 19 to 1



Endowment:

LSU — $311,656,000

Alabama — $539,969,000



Faculty changes over five years

LSU — Lost 220

Alabama — Added 408



Enrollment over 10 years

LSU — Declined by 1,369 students

Alabama — Grown by 14,003 students



State population:

Louisiana — 4,533,000

Alabama — 4,780,000



Number of four-year public universities:

Louisiana — 13

Alabama — 14



Sources: U.S. Department of Education, LSU and Alabama.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:13 am to
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the near constant expansion at Alabama— including new classroom buildings, new housing and new buses


Aha! Overexpansion. Enjoy the bubble, bro. Bama bout to become the next Blockbuster.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Do these numbers include UAt UAb UAh? or just UAt?


I have no idea.
Posted by RollDatRoll
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:21 am to
Just UAt
Posted by higgsBoson
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Bob, think that has anything to do with the petroleum industry? Serious question. Eta: why stop at undergrad?


It's more about in general that Louisiana has a much stronger economy than Alabama.

LINK

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Posted by TheGumpCard
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:24 am to
Yeah, the numbers only include the Tuscaloosa campus. I had a professor tell me recently that our freshman engineering class this year was larger and had a higher act score than auburn haha.
Posted by The Calvin
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:24 am to
Tuscaloosa has a downtown?
Posted by 12
Redneck part of Florida
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 10:25 am to
The decline is real.
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