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re: 8 Team Playoff Lovers
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:53 am to DawgNation4
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:53 am to DawgNation4
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Should a two loss team that beats undefeated team really better than them?
what?
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Georgia Fan
Oh, ok...figures.
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:54 am to DawgNation4
6 teams would be better. Top 2 get a bye the first round.
I guess you could do 8 and let the Top 4 get byes. Then we'd be arguing about who got the byes.
I guess you could do 8 and let the Top 4 get byes. Then we'd be arguing about who got the byes.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:55 am to chawk195
I propose 128 team double elimination round-robin playoff bracket and get rid of the regular season. Seed teams based entirely on the previous year's bracket result.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:57 am to DawgNation4
After everybody finishes mocking the OP, why not answer the question?
In a playoff where there is a 2 loss team and they beat an undefeated team in the championship game, the 2 loss team would be the champion. That's the rules.
But philosophically, he has a point. If Penn State made it in and beat Alabama in the championship, Alabama would have a better "body of work" this year. That's irrelevant in naming the champion because you go by the rules that are in place. But it calls into question the way the system works in a playoff, when "body of work" is part of the consideration of who makes it.
In the NFL or NBA, it's all on record, so this is irrelevant. If you are looking at body of work to determine participants, then it seems inconsistent to then ignore it if a team finishing with 2 losses wins the championship over a 1 loss team with a better body of work who just happened to lose in the championship game.
You don't have to agree, but he has a point.
In a playoff where there is a 2 loss team and they beat an undefeated team in the championship game, the 2 loss team would be the champion. That's the rules.
But philosophically, he has a point. If Penn State made it in and beat Alabama in the championship, Alabama would have a better "body of work" this year. That's irrelevant in naming the champion because you go by the rules that are in place. But it calls into question the way the system works in a playoff, when "body of work" is part of the consideration of who makes it.
In the NFL or NBA, it's all on record, so this is irrelevant. If you are looking at body of work to determine participants, then it seems inconsistent to then ignore it if a team finishing with 2 losses wins the championship over a 1 loss team with a better body of work who just happened to lose in the championship game.
You don't have to agree, but he has a point.
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:58 am to DawgNation4
Screw that!! 5 conference champs. 2ND and 3rd place from each conference. Highest rank non power5 team.
16 teams playoff. Football committee just seed the top16 as they see fit.
Imo if you win your conference you should automatically be in.
16 teams playoff. Football committee just seed the top16 as they see fit.
Imo if you win your conference you should automatically be in.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:10 pm to BengalsLivesMatter
I think an 8 team playoff is the most logical. 5 P5 conference champs plus 3 at large bids. Absolutely makes both the regular season and the conference championship games important. This would allow/force teams to schedule better non conference games for at large purposes will still affording them the opportunity to qualify via winning their own conference. It's a no brainer imo..
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:11 pm to DawgNation4
quote:all of that.
You don't watch much NFL, MLB, NCAAB, or NBA do you?
If you go to 8 you would catch all the teams that have a legit claim that they could win it all. There will always be arguments at the edge like 4 vs 5 or 8 vs 9 or 16 vs 17, but you would get all the teams that have a legit shot at 8.
On the other hand you would require yet another game from a bunch of 'student athletes; that are suppose to go to class.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:21 pm to Crimson Wraith
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6 teams would be better. Top 2 get a bye the first round.
I guess you could do 8 and let the Top 4 get byes. Then we'd be arguing about who got the byes.
We'll still see arguments over who gets byes if we went to 6. There are plenty of years where there are no clear differences between the 2 and 3. Having a bye is such a big advantage that it would the current argument look tame.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:48 pm to bigDgator
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the early season matchup in hoops between UCLA and Kentucky. That was an intense game.
You got it right....people will always watch big games and rivalry games. shite nobody was LSU or UF play Directional University anyway as it is today.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:51 pm to DawgNation4
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DawgNation4
Terrible thread. You should be ashamed of it and ashamed of yourself.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:01 pm to LSU316
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Let me guess you didn't want Bama to play LSU again in 2011 did you?
I can't lie I'm glad we got in but I didn't think it was fair to LSU and posted so here. I would think LSU fans would all hate redo games because of what happened in 2011. Its going to happen every year if we go to 8. And the bigger the game the bigger the chance for a redo in the PO. And that will suck, just like it did for LSU in 2011.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:02 pm to chawk195
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Forget 4, forget 8. Hell, forget 16. Do things like FCS, D2, and D3. 24 teams, top 8 are seeded and get bye weeks. Drop the regular season back to 11 games, by eliminating the cupcake week.
....but all I hear from those in charge is it's "too hard" for FBS teams to play 16 games. Never mind all the other divisions already do it. I guess the small time boys are smarter and tougher.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:02 pm to bama1959
Don't need more than 4. All of the teams ranked #5-#8 have already lost at least two games. All of them except Penn State already lost to one of the top four teams and Penn State already lost bigly to #6 Michigan. Four is enough and is better because it keeps those regular season games important.
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:19 pm to TidalSurge1
So lemme guess, the New York Giants should of never won two Super Bowls using some of the logic on this thread.
Move it to 8 teams. May the best frickin team win. Everyone except FBS does it. Quit being little bitches.
Move it to 8 teams. May the best frickin team win. Everyone except FBS does it. Quit being little bitches.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:35 pm to prisonpunk
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all I hear from those in charge is it's "too hard" for FBS teams to play 16 games. Never mind all the other divisions already do it. I guess the small time boys are smarter and tougher.
Yup. Acting like it's a logistical or physical impossibility is intellectually dishonest.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:39 pm to bigDgator
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didn't watch
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early season hoops
Nailed it. Meaningless
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:26 pm to nc14
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Yep, nobody wants to watch Bama square off against Whiskey who just lost their third game. People are dumb I tell ya.
And would anyone want to see an OSU-Michigan rematch in the first round? That game two weeks ago...one of the best in years...would mean nothing...other than home field advantage for the rematch. And who would want to see it in the 1st round?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:30 pm to BamaGradinTn
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And would anyone want to see an OSU-Michigan rematch in the first round?
I bet a bunch of Michigan fans would, just like I (and a bunch of other Bama fans) was happy to see a rematch in 2011
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:31 pm to jchamil
I agree. Hard fought, controversial and overtime. All similarities.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:30 pm to kevind1965
I get that but it should be the best two or three teams from each conference in my opinion. I don't like the eyeball test or out of conference opponent debate. A committee should only be responsible for seeding of the teams not who deserves to be in or out. Conference standings should be the qualifying criteria for playoffs.
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