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#5 team can't bitch
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:09 am
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:09 am
If you are #5 on Dec 8 then tough shite. Last year you wouldn't have been even close. So suck on it. If Bama doesn't win out from the Ole Miss game we don't get in. I can live with that. Unfortunately for Miss St if we beat AU you don't win the SEC and even though I think you are the #2 team in the country the Committee doesn't think like I do. They will probably give it to TCU,Bailor,or Ohio State for winning their CC.
And you are already a 3 pt dog to Ole Piss. Good luck!! Actually Hail No.
And you are already a 3 pt dog to Ole Piss. Good luck!! Actually Hail No.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:10 am to bama1959
Is "Bailor" an insult or a misspell?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:10 am to bama1959
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If you are #5 on Dec 8 then tough shite. Last year you wouldn't have been even close. So suck on it. If Bama doesn't win out from the Ole Miss game we don't get in. I can live with that. Unfortunately for Miss St if we beat AU you don't win the SEC and even though I think you are the #2 team in the country the Committee doesn't think like I do. They will probably give it to TCU,Bailor,or Ohio State for winning their CC.
Of course they can
Who is #4 is even mor subjective than who is #2.
Best answer is 8 team playoff
Power 5 champs, 3 at larges.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:13 am to SammyTiger
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Power 5 champs, 3 at larges.
Agreed. Just give it that exact caveat. Honestly I wouldn't care if it was a 8-5 conference champ. I'd want them in the playoff because of the three at larges. However I don't believe the at-larges should be placed 6-8. I think that's where the committee can decide who gets a better seed. Leave their precious subjectivity.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:14 am to Kcoyote
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Agreed. Just give it that exact caveat. Honestly I wouldn't care if it was a 8-5 conference champ. I'd want them in the playoff because of the three at larges. However I don't believe the at-larges should be placed 6-8. I think that's where the committee can decide who gets a better seed. Leave their precious subjectivity.
Agree - Power 5 champs + 3 at larges and once you have your field set you rank all 8 the same way we rank them now.
I wouldn't mind some sort of trigger that is a Power 5 champ is worse than 9-3 that they can be replaced by an 11-1 or 12-0 non-Power 5 champ (say Marshall this year or Boise in past years).
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 11:15 am
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:17 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Are yall serious you know #9 would bitch just as loud as #5.
Power 5 champs + 3 at larges
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:18 am to bama1959
Disagree.
IF we had a system where there was a reasonably consistent conference strength, and IF all the conference champs got in, I would agree.
As soon as you add the subjectivity of taking only 4 out of 5 power conference champs (plus ND), you can't play the "you had your chance" card. MSU lost to us on OUR field. We lost to Ole Miss on THEIR field. One loss to a very good team can mean everything...I'm not willing to say MSU should sit because they didn't win their conference, while other teams played NOBODY in conference (FSU, and to a lesser extent tOSU), and other teams didn't even have a championship game - so little tiebreaker scenarios determine which team should get to play for the title?
phhht.
IF we had a system where there was a reasonably consistent conference strength, and IF all the conference champs got in, I would agree.
As soon as you add the subjectivity of taking only 4 out of 5 power conference champs (plus ND), you can't play the "you had your chance" card. MSU lost to us on OUR field. We lost to Ole Miss on THEIR field. One loss to a very good team can mean everything...I'm not willing to say MSU should sit because they didn't win their conference, while other teams played NOBODY in conference (FSU, and to a lesser extent tOSU), and other teams didn't even have a championship game - so little tiebreaker scenarios determine which team should get to play for the title?
phhht.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:19 am to SammyTiger
quote:This.
Who is #4 is even mor subjective than who is #2. Best answer is 8 team playoff
I honestly don't understand why they didn't initially go to an 8 playoff format. More games, more revenue, more viewership, you have the 4 big bowls already lined up for the playoffs and you are only adding in one more game for each team.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:22 am to SummerOfGeorge
An 8-team playoff will devalue the regular season. Sure, more games between teams in the 10-20 range will become important, but games between highly ranked teams (e.g., #3 Auburn vs #4 Ole Miss a few weeks ago) will become less critical. And a conference champ with 3 or more losses (or 2 losses in a year where there are a lot of 1-loss teams) just doesn't deserve a shot at the NC.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:22 am to SummerOfGeorge
I'm good with 6 at most... 8 teams don't deserve a shot at the crown imo.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:23 am to madddoggydawg
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Are yall serious you know #9 would bitch just as loud as #5.
right. the 69th team or whatever in college basketball usually bitches and people think the #5 team isnt gonna bitch?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:24 am to madddoggydawg
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Are yall serious you know #9 would bitch just as loud as #5.
I don't know. You're ranked #9, at 8 and 7 are conference champs, so clearly you're an at large team and the #6 team is an at large team. People will always bitch, but i'm less inclined to give it any consideration if you're trying to convince me you're 3 spots better (obviously it wouldn't always work out this way but even if it only happened once, that's one less year of bitching).
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:24 am to rockchlkjayhku11
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right. the 69th team or whatever in college basketball usually bitches and people think the #5 team isnt gonna bitch?
Yea but nobody really cares very much. We generally talk about how so and so got snubbed, then the conversation ends with "well they weren't making a run anyway and they had plenty of opportunities".
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:25 am to bama1959
frick this 4-team playoff shite. I'd love to see an 8-game playoff with some games at home instead of at former BCS bowl sites. Could you imagine the atmosphere at home for a playoff game?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:26 am to SummerOfGeorge
When has a P5 conference winner finished with more than 3 losses?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:28 am to bama1959
I know this guy that goes by Fireman17 and I think the two of you would get along great ... Peas and carrots.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:28 am to DMagic
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When has a P5 conference winner finished with more than 3 losses?
Wisconsin won the Big Ten at 9-4 in Bert's last year.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:29 am to bama1959
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If you are #5 on Dec 8 then tough shite. Last year you wouldn't have been even close
5 major playoff conferences and only 4 spots...it was doomed to fail from the beginning.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:29 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I wouldn't mind some sort of trigger that is a Power 5 champ is worse than 9-3 that they can be replaced by an 11-1 or 12-0 non-Power 5 champ (say Marshall this year or Boise in past years).
3 loss or better Power 5 champs
all others at large.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:30 am to SammyTiger
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3 loss or better Power 5 champs all others at large.
Sounds like we created CFP v2.0. Let's send it off to the ADs for approval.
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