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re: 20/20 In an Instant (Bonfire @ A&M)

Posted on 7/26/16 at 7:20 am to
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70867 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 7:20 am to
You're one of the few on this board I can say I actually think of as an idiot and not just a bad troll
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30571 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 8:55 am to
I remember hearing about it when it happened and really nothing else ever again.

That was a sad 20/20. I felt terrible for everyone.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55169 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:15 am to
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Another well-intentioned thread goes wayward, courtesy of a horn. You wanted attention; we see you. Now go away.



It's crazy how much time t-sips devote to A&M on this website
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
144923 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:40 am to
Yea. There's nothing wrong in claiming that it was dangerous. You just don't have to be an arse about it
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55169 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:43 am to
Agreed, he did go balls deep into sandpaper with it
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
43926 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:57 am to
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Nothing wrong with what you just said

Thanks, I was horrified when I heard about it back in '99. But the response seemed to lack humility and a sense of responsibility. I'm not referring to the few people who were actually supposed to be in charge, I'm sure their lives were deeply changed from the event, but just aggies in general seemed to think that it was just some kind of unavoidable, horrible, accident. It wasn't just avoidable, it was inevitable.
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there is truth in what Hugh said as well.
No doubt, and I actually, generally, agree with his statement, "we're afraid to take risks anymore. Parents hardly even let their kids play outside unsupervised anymore." but NOT in this context. I find it disrespectful.

The reason that liability is becoming such an issue these days is because we're losing our common sense, and that bonfire had exceeded all measures of common sense.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55169 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:03 am to
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wasn't just avoidable, it was inevitable



It was avoidable, all Aggies agree with this, that's one of the things that makes it so tragic


it certainly wasn't inevitable, but it's probability of occurring was great due to lack of control and yes, hubris. Isn't it human to always assume that because the worst possible thing hasn't occurred yet, that it won't?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
43926 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:11 am to
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Old Sarge

My opinion of you has changed, Sarge, you're a good man. I'm still gonna throw some good natured ribbing at you in the future, but in the meantime...

Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55169 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:17 am to
Don't kid yourself, its the offseason, we'll be at each other's throats by week 2
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:20 am to
Bonfire is the one Aggie tradition that most Horns respect, Texas in fact had their own version of Bonfire for the Texas/Texas A&M game but elected to change the theme.

The events leading up to Bonfire involve a large portion of the student body for months in preparation. Again, a lot of bizarre & goofy stuff goes on in College Station, but this was pretty special.

Noted earlier, Bonfire turned into an accident waiting to happen as the height reached dangerous levels & the students weren't qualified to engineer or facilitate the structure. The "engineering" was simply verbal instruction passed on by previous classes.

Legalities will not allow an on campus Bonfire moving forward which is a shame. Too late, but using University resources (engineering professors & alumni/companies) in unison with the student body, would have allowed the tradition to stay on campus.

Making fun of A&M is a tradition, but Bonfire is off limits. Read/watch the portion of the 12th student that passed the day after & the details & your heart will be broken. The young man is what every parent hopes their son encompasses in terms of strength, leadership & courage.

My Longhorn father attended with his A&M sister/niece & had Bonfire as one of his greatest college football related experiences.

Bonfire was/is a very special thing.

Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42540 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:20 am to
I can remember being really young and seeing the bonfire images. I could tell then it was not safe. TAMU should start this again with some engineering oversight. Subsoil stabilization, and a structural engineer could prevent any issues. No reason to stop over one accident.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55169 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:24 am to
Have an upvote

And making fun of Longhorns is one of our favorite traditions as well
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 10:25 am
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
3520 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:45 am to
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TAMU should start this again with some engineering oversight. Subsoil stabilization, and a structural engineer could prevent any issues. No reason to stop over one accident.


With all due respect, no. The reason it was special was because it hadn't been "sanitized for your protection". Bonfire was done by the students. It was a tradition passed from one class to another. It got in the way of grades, sleep and going home for the weekend. It turned college kids into Aggies - usually the cost being only sore muscles, blisters and exhaustion. I worked on three during my stay at A&M, and while I miss it dearly, it can't be redone.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
43926 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 11:16 am to
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You just don't have to be an arse about it

Are you implying that I have any choice in the matter?

lulz
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19179 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:47 pm to
Bonfire was the best class in Leadership I've taken.

I didn't watch the show; I didn't see a need to ruin a night/weekend/month after watching it. I've already lived it once and that was enough.

Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43944 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:51 pm to
I can't (and won't) watch it either.
Posted by p_bubel
San Antonio
Member since Jan 2014
463 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:47 pm to
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With all due respect, no. ... and while I miss it dearly, it can't be redone.


X 2

I don't even go to the off campus bonfire. Football season really isn't the same without the stack going up on the campus. It's gone and not coming back.



Being on campus that fall was a surreal event.
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