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1st time since 2005 SEC won't be represented in Heisman Finalists

Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:49 pm
Posted by BamaELCo
Alabama
Member since Jun 2012
3210 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:49 pm
Wonder how much that and Lamar Jackson having pretty much won it already will impact the TV ratings.
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:54 pm to
He's literally the Myles Garrett of QBs. Pads stats against god awful teams and folds when he plays real competition, save for Clemson.

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64419 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:59 pm to
I'm honestly not so sure Jackson wins it with how he finished the season losing the final two games and throwing 3 picks against Kentucky. I know Jackson has the stats, but it wouldn't shock me to see Watson win
Posted by Giant Leaf
On Leaf
Member since Nov 2015
4229 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:02 am to
Were the TV ratings ever that great anyways?

In fact its such a shitty cast of characters (highlighted by Peppers who is a joke) that more people watch just to see the train wreck
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35928 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:07 am to
quote:

He's literally the Myles Garrett of QBs. Pads stats against god awful teams and folds when he plays real competition, save for Clemson.


vs Florida State:
216 yards passing, 1 passing TD
147 yards rushing, 4 rushing TDs


vs Clemson:
295 yards passing, 1 passing TD
162 yards rushing, 2 rushing TDs


vs Kentucky (bowl eligible):
211 yards passing, 2 passing TDs
171 yards rushing, 2 rushing TDs


vs NC State (bowl eligible):
355 yards passing, 3 passing TDs
76 yards rushing, 1 rushing TD


vs Boston College (bowl eligible):
231 yards passing, 4 passing TDs
185 yards rushing, 3 rushing TDs


vs Wake Forest (bowl eligible):
145 yards passing, 1 passing TD
153 yards rushing



Seems like he was pretty damn good against the good/solid teams on their schedule...

...but don't let stats stop you from spewing your SEC biased nonsense
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 12:09 am
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:10 am to
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Pads stats against god awful teams and folds when he plays real competition, save for Clemson.



Dude had one bad game vs Houston. Not his fault his defense was garbage vs Kentucky.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:01 am to
Great player. Turnover prone sometimes tho. Amazingly elusive runner. He should win it.
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18611 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:54 am to
This really is a lousy year for the Heisman. When the clear cut front-runner is a player from a 3 loss Louisville team. With all due respect to Lamar.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62697 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 7:16 am to
Lamar won the Heisman against Charlotte in the first game.
Fact.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91639 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 7:22 am to
No, Lamar Jackson is fricking good. Heisman.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91639 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 7:42 am to
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This really is a lousy year for the Heisman. When the clear cut front-runner is a player from a 3 loss Louisville team.
No, it's better when they give the best player in college football the award. Not the best player on the best team. It shouldn't matter if his team has no losses or 12 losses.
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes Gambler
Member since Dec 2014
3916 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 7:55 am to
Yeah because if Alabama doesn't have a rep in NY for the Heisman, who could possibly care? It's Jackson, Watson and Baker Mayfield? Jackson or bust.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:01 am to
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save for Clemson.


...and FSU.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:04 am to
quote:

No, it's better when they give the best player in college football the award. Not the best player on the best team. It shouldn't matter if his team has no losses or 12 losses.


Totally agree. That's been a flawed approach that goes back years and years, particularly in the era of Notre Dame dominance.

It must be based on a ridiculous logical fallacy that the best player on the best team must be the best player in college football.
Posted by drunkensailor89
Kingsland, GA
Member since Sep 2013
1964 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:24 am to
I mean... Manziel and RGIII won it and they certainly weren't on the best teams
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64419 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:56 am to
quote:

That's been a flawed approach that goes back years and years, particularly in the era of Notre Dame dominance.

Eh that's not always the case. Seems like that's the case moreso when there hasn't been a clear cut favorite. Plenty of guys have won it without being on one of or the best teams
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
3759 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:57 am to
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1st time since 2005 SEC won't be represented in Heisman Finalists by WilliamTaylor21quote:He's literally the Myles Garrett of QBs. Pads stats against god awful teams and folds when he plays real competition, save for Clemson. vs Florida State: 216 yards passing, 1 passing TD 147 yards rushing, 4 rushing TDs vs Clemson: 295 yards passing, 1 passing TD 162 yards rushing, 2 rushing TDs vs Kentucky (bowl eligible): 211 yards passing, 2 passing TDs 171 yards rushing, 2 rushing TDs vs NC State (bowl eligible): 355 yards passing, 3 passing TDs 76 yards rushing, 1 rushing TD vs Boston College (bowl eligible): 231 yards passing, 4 passing TDs 185 yards rushing, 3 rushing TDs vs Wake Forest (bowl eligible): 145 yards passing, 1 passing TD 153 yards rushing Seems like he was pretty damn good against the good/solid teams on their schedule... ...but don't let stats stop you from spewing your SEC biased nonsense


^^^That's gonna leave a mark.
Posted by Rhio
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2013
1325 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:59 am to
quote:

This really is a lousy year for the Heisman. When the clear cut front-runner is a player from a 3 loss Louisville team. With all due respect to Lamar


Not at all, see 2007 when Tim Tebow won the Heisman on a 3-loss Florida team, and McFadden came in second on a 4-loss Arkansas team.

Nothing lousy about either of those teams.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48868 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:07 am to
quote:

Wonder how much that and Lamar Jackson having pretty much won it already will impact the TV ratings.


So salty.

Watson wins it.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68249 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:12 am to
Who gives a shite about a media popularity contest?
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