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Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:34 pm to cas4t
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Find one other game in which the LSU OL was manhandled and provide statistics.
Manhandled against Alabama, held in check in other games. Agreed.
My overall point is LSU'S offense line has been proclaimed to be the best in football, then the worst post-Alabama, then the best again in the off-season for now the 3rd year in a row.
Why can't they just be "pretty good" until further notice?
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:34 pm to Triple Daves
Totals for players do matter as some running backs are better than others and are able to read blocks better, find the holes, etc.
The OL wasn't manhandled by anyone other than Alabama and you can't prove otherwise, period.
The OL wasn't manhandled by anyone other than Alabama and you can't prove otherwise, period.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:35 pm to LSU Patrick
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Oops. I take it this is you.
Nope, not a bad hoodie though.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:35 pm to Triple Daves
Good, I'm glad we settled that. Feel free to edit your original post I responded to as it's factually incorrect.
Have a good day
Have a good day
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:36 pm to cas4t
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You quite literally said "manhandled". Do you suffer from amnesia?
I agree, only manhandled by Alabama.
I also agree with my general sentiment and response which is they are a good to very good line but not a great one based on their performance vs very good and elite defenses.
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:37 pm to Triple Daves
They were great against Florida. We just had terrible redzone coaching. That has been fixed as Canada was best in the nation at redzone scoring
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:38 pm to Triple Daves
Your assessment essentially is that Alabama is the only elite defense in America then. Because LSUs OL has done well vs plenty of other highly ranked defenses with top defenders who went on to he NFL.
Define your metric. Provide examples.
Define your metric. Provide examples.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:39 pm to cas4t
well they did LOSE 4 games and could only manage 10 pts against UF,so...
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:39 pm to GermantownTiger
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They were great against Florida. We just had terrible redzone coaching. That has been fixed as Canada was best in the nation at redzone scoring
Again, less than 5 YPA is not "great". It's pretty good, but it's not great. It ranks in the middle of the pack.
Alabama was for 6.2 YPA vs Florida, and Alabama did not have a "great" OL.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:40 pm to Triple Daves
So YPC is the only measure for an OL. Surely you are not actually this dense.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:41 pm to cas4t
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Define your metric. Provide examples.
I just gave you 5 games in which LSU averaged less than 5 YPA.
I also told you against Top 25 teams LSU was 4th in the SEC in YPA, clearly showing they had a much bigger drop off vs good teams than other lines.
LSU had a very good line and great backs, but they were merely good against most good defenses. They racked up prodigious totals against terrible run defenses which made their overall totals very good.
Do you honestly think LSU had a great OL last year? Great? I'm asking, not being sarcastic.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:42 pm to bamasgot13
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I love these LSU predictions and how often they are wrong
I remember a few Bama posters laughing at the Aranda hire when we predicted our D would be greatly improved. "But we put up a zillion on Aranda last year when he was at Wisc..."
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:42 pm to cas4t
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So YPC is the only measure for an OL. Surely you are not actually this dense.
It's one of the best most all encompassing, yes. Outside of F+ power stats it's probably the best. Much better than total yards for sure.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:42 pm to cas4t
NFL.com rated LSU's as best in the nation. Lets go with their assessment over his
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:43 pm to cas4t
this nitpicking is irrelevant. the problem LSU has is the offensive line and the run game it supports defines the offense. it isnt good enough to win a national title not simply because it isnt a world beater, but because nobody has that anymore. the I is dead. the fullback, is dead. hopefully orgeron knows this. but its stupid to put the team of a first year headcoach in this category of expectation.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:44 pm to MetryTyger
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At least we won our last football game
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:44 pm to GermantownTiger
I thought it was common belief amongst LSU fans that last year's line was good but not great with some weak spots, but I guess I was wrong.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:45 pm to GermantownTiger
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NFL.com rated LSU's as best in the nation. Lets go with their assessment over his
I don't give two shits about the argument going on between Triple Daves and cas4t, but this dumb.
If those NFL.com writers were worth a frick they would be employed by an actual team instead of covering the game for a website.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:47 pm to Triple Daves
Congrats @LSUfootball! Coach O has surrounded himself w/ 2 outstanding coordinators for the foreseeable future. Matt Canada is outstanding!
— Kirk Herbstreit (@KirkHerbstreit) December 14, 2016
— Kirk Herbstreit (@KirkHerbstreit) December 14, 2016
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