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"One and done is killing college basketball"

Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:43 am
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:43 am
Evidence? Because the "lack of commitment to a program" argument is bullshite. How is watching the most talented players at the college level hurting the game? How does Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis and Derrick Rose being at the college level for 1 year hurt the game overall?

Answer: It doesn't. It actually brings more viewers to the college games. The only thing it hurts are the feelings of programs that can't get those types of players. Yes programs like Ole Miss. Hurr Durr.
This post was edited on 4/10/15 at 11:48 am
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73437 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:47 am to
I don't watch the NBA, so it sucks for me. I have never enjoyed professional basketball.
Posted by casublett1
Columbia
Member since Feb 2015
398 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:48 am to
There are really only 2 or 3 teams capable of recruiting the one and dones. I don't think it hurts basketball, because it is allowing the smaller guys to compete every year. Basically, it's spreading the wealth of 5 and 4-star players amongst other programs.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68437 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:48 am to
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don't think it hurts basketball, because it is allowing the smaller guys to compete every year. Basically, it's spreading the wealth of 5 and 4-star players amongst other programs.

Thank you.
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3850 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:50 am to
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Basically, it's spreading the wealth of 5 and 4-star players amongst other programs.


How exactly? Kentucky will recruit 7 5*s to play for their team next year. If players were required to stay longer they'd only be able to offer maybe 2 5*s which would allow other schools to potentially get the other 5 5*s?
This post was edited on 4/10/15 at 11:51 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145056 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:51 am to
Killing? Wouldn't go thar far. But I wouldn't say it's good for it. Even if it has a very small negative effect
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:51 am to
I agree. The problem with college basketball is that it is slow and boring. The NBA is a far superior product, and there's really no comparison. At least with college football there are some things that make it legitimately more exciting to follow and watch than the NFL.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68437 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:53 am to
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But I wouldn't say it's good for it. Even if it has a very small negative effect

The only negative side effect I could see from it is programs that use them have to bring in new playmakers every year to make up for the loss. As a whole I don't see how it's an issue for the game as a whole.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:54 am to
What's killing college basketball is the 35 second shot clock and watching guys shoot teams out of games. The play is horrible.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145056 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:54 am to
Because it takes talent out of the game that it could keep. Teams can bring in new talent, but that still doesn't change the fact that talent has left the game earlier than it could
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3850 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:56 am to
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Because it takes talent out of the game that it could keep.


This. You never get to see star players develop as a college player.

Oh your team has a really good player that played really well this year as a freshman? You want to see him next year? Too bad he's gone.

I just don't get the point of making them go to college at all. Make them go for 3 or don't make them go at all.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30190 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:57 am to
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I don't watch the NBA, so it sucks for me. I have never enjoyed professional basketball.

Same for me - I hate NBA now. I haven't been an NBA fan since the Jordan/Thomas/Robinson/Byrd/Johnson/Ewing/Worthy/Rodman days.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:57 am to
It's not killing the quality of the basketball in college basketball. It is certainly making the idea of a "student athlete" even more suspect than it already is.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37295 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:00 pm to
i would hate it for my team. yes kentucky is badass, no arguments from me there. but i like to know my team, watch them get better, root for the players, fantasize of when some will finally be gone, etc etc etc. that's what college basketball is about to me the team play, not some guys that are there for a fleeting minute.

Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98914 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:02 pm to
I think the thing that bothers me most about media and others championing the argument that the one and dones are allegedly killing college basketball (it's not IMO) is that there is a long laundry list of things that needs to be addressed to improve college basketball before the one and done rule.

How many of us has bitched about the horribly inconsistent officiating all season? The inconsistency of foul calls between the perimeter and the post? A lane that's too small and a shot clock that's too long? Even the women have a shorter shot clock at this point. Or the ridiculous amount of TV timeouts and allotted timeouts?

All of those things are things that can be fixed that would legitimately effect every single team in the college game. "Fixing" the one and done would just be putting a bandaid on a gaping wound.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10561 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:03 pm to
It has definitely deteriorated Auburn's basketball program.
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3850 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:04 pm to
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BluegrassBelle


Can I agree with you and still think one and done is bad for college bball?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98914 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:05 pm to
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that's what college basketball is about to me the team play


There was plenty of team play with UK this season. Was one of the most unselfish teams I've watched play in a long time. This criticism is a bit ignorant knowing that.

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but i like to know my team, watch them get better, root for the players,


UK fans are all able to do that. Would I like some of those guys to stay longer? Sure. But I don't have any problem following them at UK and beyond. No more than I did Jamal Mashburn or Rex Chapman when they both left early.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
30866 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:08 pm to
Agree. Need to adopt college baseball rules.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98914 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:08 pm to
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Can I agree with you and still think one and done is bad for college bball?


I don't think it's necessarily bad, largely because it only affects a handful of teams that exercises it and it's been beneficial for those teams. I've enjoyed the results it's brought for my team. I'm sure Duke fans are happy with the results it brought for them this season by embracing some one and done guys.

I don't have a problem with someone thinking it's bad. But they should probably come up with something better than "deerrrrr it's not team ball" when they do.
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