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If Kentucky has 7 players go pro what does that do for their APR???
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:38 pm
I assume that somebody eventually has to earn a degree or they may be at risk of losing scholarships.
I guess the 5'9" white kid with the head bound counts for their graduation rate.
I guess the 5'9" white kid with the head bound counts for their graduation rate.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 2:43 pm
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:43 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:44 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Nothing if they leave in good standing
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:45 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
The same thing it's done with all the other guys they've had go pro. As long as they complete their spring requirements the APR doesn't take a hit. The only guy under Cal to not do that was Daniel Orton.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:46 pm to BluegrassBelle
So nobody ever has to graduate?
I kinda assumed that is the whole point of college.
I kinda assumed that is the whole point of college.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:46 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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I assume that somebody eventually has to earn a degree or they may be at risk of losing scholarships.
Nah
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:47 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Has every Mississippi State player that's come through playing football or basketball graduated?
Come on Bundy.
Come on Bundy.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:48 pm to nicholastiger
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Nothing if they leave in good standing
That's how I thought it works too. I guess they (or their proxies
) will finish this term to not put Cal in a bad spot. I do wonder what percentage of UK bball players get degrees from UK?
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:50 pm to elposter
What's funny is the guy in the middle (Poythress) is set to graduate on an early track and with a high GPA. So it makes his example pic kind of funny.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:51 pm to Piedawg
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There is no way a 5'9 white boy is starting for UK.
He is not but the same can be said when looking at every SEC "roster". Always 10-20 guys that grew up dreaming of playing for their university. Always root for these guys, and would hire them in a heartbeat.
As a previous poster stated it is whether they were on track to graduate. Meaning they were still in good academic standing when they declared. Coach Cal has actually had a very good team GPA in his years at UK.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:01 pm to BluegrassBelle
What's really funny is the way the go through it. From my understanding they never have to set foot in a classroom for the exception of freshman orientation and take only online classes from their luxury rooms in the athletics dorm.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:07 pm to blackrose890
Raise your hand if you love re-visiting this topic EVERY SINGLE OFF SEASON.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:07 pm to blackrose890
If the NCAA doesn't like it and are really concerned about student-athletes then they have the power to change it. In the meantime it looks like a smart option to me. 
What's even funnier is the thought that only players from Kentucky exercise that option. Or even just basketball players that leave early. They told during the broadcast the other night that Duke players had to take exams on the plane between rounds.
What's even funnier is the thought that only players from Kentucky exercise that option. Or even just basketball players that leave early. They told during the broadcast the other night that Duke players had to take exams on the plane between rounds.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:11 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
It's not UK's fault that the NCAA has implemented a retarded 1 and done policy. It should be the same as football/baseball. You can leave your Junior year or you can go straight to the NBA out of high school.
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:12 pm to TigerCruise
FWIW, it's not an NCAA rule.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:22 pm to BluegrassBelle
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They told during the broadcast the other night that Duke players had to take exams on the plane between rounds.
I wonder what the average Duke players h.s. GPA is vs players from UK. Does Duke set a higher bar like Stanford does for football?
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:25 pm to BluegrassBelle
The reason that UK was so powerful this year is that they had upperclassmen mixed with a few frosh..some of them were not going to be lottery picks and did the smart thing last year.
I think we are going to see UK rotate every other year...one year great and the next year very good as the frosh develop. Look at last year, they got much much better in the second half of the season as the youth on the team matured.
Myself...I hate that players leave early and that applies to football...you sign a scholarship you stay in college 4 yrs. Baseball is maybe an exception....but only in certain cases and they sign out of high as do some basketball players. Its for their own good. Too many good football players leave early...don't make it and are driving beer trucks within 3-4 yrs....or basketball players going to Turkey, Bulgaria and after 5 yrs of leaving are in the public work force.
I think we are going to see UK rotate every other year...one year great and the next year very good as the frosh develop. Look at last year, they got much much better in the second half of the season as the youth on the team matured.
Myself...I hate that players leave early and that applies to football...you sign a scholarship you stay in college 4 yrs. Baseball is maybe an exception....but only in certain cases and they sign out of high as do some basketball players. Its for their own good. Too many good football players leave early...don't make it and are driving beer trucks within 3-4 yrs....or basketball players going to Turkey, Bulgaria and after 5 yrs of leaving are in the public work force.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:25 pm to BluegrassBelle
I'm not saying it isn't allowed, nor that Kentucky is the team taking advantage of it, it's just interesting that for these one and dones the system is set up to where they can take a handful of intro courses that quizzes and tests can be blue noted and aced without learning anything.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:31 pm to reel_gator8
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Myself...I hate that players leave early and that applies to football...you sign a scholarship you stay in college 4 yrs. Baseball is maybe an exception....but only in certain cases and they sign out of high as do some basketball players. Its for their own good. Too many good football players leave early...don't make it and are driving beer trucks within 3-4 yrs....or basketball players going to Turkey, Bulgaria and after 5 yrs of leaving are in the public work force.
Why should a player be forced to stay in school if there is someone willing to pay them a salary for their chosen profession as a professional athlete? For that matter, why should anyone be forced to go to college in the first place if a NBA, MLB (or to a much lesser extent) NFL team is willing to give them a job right out of HS?
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:56 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
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I wonder what the average Duke players h.s. GPA is vs players from UK. Does Duke set a higher bar like Stanford does for football?
Its hard finding GPA for a team but their GSR is easier.
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The difference between the GSR and the federal rate is that the GSR takes into account transfers that left the program in good academic standing. Also, the FGR only includes student-athletes that are on scholarship.
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Duke Graduation Success Rate is 97 percent
Of the 26 Blue Devil teams, 17 posted a perfect 100 percent GSR: baseball, men’s basketball, men’s fencing, men’s golf, men’s tennis, men’s cross country/track and field, women’s basketball, women’s fencing, field hockey, women’s lacrosse, women’s soccer, women’s swimming and diving, women’s tennis, women’s cross country/track and field and volleyball.What do you think?
The remaining nine squads all posted a GSR of at least 83 percent and eight of the nine scored 91 percent or better. Women’s golf (83), men’s soccer (91), football (92), wrestling (94), women’s rowing (95), men’s lacrosse (95), men’s swimming and diving (97) made up the group of nine.
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According to the more generous GSR, 100 percent of the members of Duke’s men’s basketball team who started there in 2007 graduated. While that’s impressive, don’t cheer too loudly just yet, because the federal numbers aren’t so kind. Only 67 percent of male ball players who began at Duke graduated from the school six years later, according to the federal measurement.
The University of Kentucky men’s basketball team has an impressive 38–0 winning streak this season, but when it comes to ensuring that the players win at earning a degree, the results are mixed. According to the GSR, 89 percent of Kentucky players who started at the school in 2007 earned a diploma. But the university’s federal rate is shockingly low: Just 40 percent of male basketball players graduate.
The Michigan State University men’s basketball team has 27 wins and 11 losses under its belt this season. Some of the school’s players are winning and losing at graduation too. According to the GSR, 73 percent of Michigan State’s male basketball players who matriculated at the university in 2007 earned a diploma six years later. The federal rate isn’t so far behind—62 percent of players graduated, according to the more rigorous measure.
With a record of 35 wins and 3 losses, the University of Wisconsin men’s basketball team has proven itself to be a powerhouse this season. But the school is seriously struggling with ensuring that players graduate. According to the GSR, a mere 40 percent of Wisconsin’s male basketball players who started in 2007 graduated six years later. According to the federal rate, things are looking even worse for Wisconsin: Just 33 percent of players who started in 2007 graduated.
These numbers are actually surprising. Give Kentucky credit they improved a lot from years past. Apparently the Girl's Golf team at Duke is the weakest link.WTF
Wisconsin is surprisingly low if your were to go ethnicity stats. Also, They aren't exactly sending a whole lot of kids to the NBA so I don't understand why Wisconsin stats are just so god awful.
So Duke and Kentucky do a pretty good job graduating kids if they don't go to the NBA.
When It Comes to Graduation Rates, Here’s the Real NCAA Final Four Winner
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