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Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:22 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:When have I ever done such a thing?
Has crisp invited anyone to come to his house and kick his arse yet? This thread is shite if the answer is no.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:24 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Could you imagine the shite storm that would have taken place at the hands of the media and fans like yourself if he had waited for "due process" in this situation?
So would that fit the definition of "public pressure" ?
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:24 pm to coachcrisp
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Seriously, are you not a woman? No offense, but I really thought that you were....are you not?
None taken...it's clear you're not very sharp.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:24 pm to pete4tide
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Kid kicked off for weed (Tyren Jones) was already suspended from the team for other reasons, which may have been a failed drug test for weed, for all you know. There's so much here that no one except members of Bama's AD know about that making a statement like this is very nearly deliberate ignorance.
What statement did I make? Someone said the DV case had not gone to court so he was not guilty. The same could be said for the running back. My point was, it does not matter what the court says, if a coach feels a player has violated rules, he has a right to act regardless of what transpires afterward in a court of law.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:27 pm to Lonnie Utah
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So my only question, Is Auburn's offer still committable?
You tried this joke already Lonnie. Go have sex with one of your wives and see if you can learn something original.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:31 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:34 pm to Irons Puppet
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How does it look bad for Saban? He was under a "zero tolerance" policy and was arrested with probably cause for domestic violence. Saban reacted exactly the way he should have and said he would. "Public pressure" didn't have anything to do with it.
quote:What? The dude was brought in under strict guidelines due to his past history. He was arrested for DV and jailed, the cops obviously saw the hole in the wall and the neck injuries.
So why kick him off the team, if he was innocent? Did he jump the gun. I would think if there was any doubt, he would have been suspended until further decisions could be made. Zero tolerance means that there was some due process. My guess is, Saban saw enough to make a decision. It is one or the other.
frick due process, the guy put himself in a situation that he could have easily walked away from so that it wouldn't escalate to a situation where cops had to get involved.
Saban's reaction was what it should have been under the circumstances, he saw a guy with a history of DV get arrested again for DV and kicked him to the curb.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:36 pm to piggidyphish
quote:but you didn't answer my question...I mean "piggidyphish"...really?...what even is the frick with that?
None taken...it's clear you're not very sharp.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:38 pm to JuiceTerry
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So you're saying Paulk should get another chance? Just trying to clarify.
No I'm saying he's young enough to change and deal with his issues (he was 17-18 and fresh out of high school when it happened). If he got another chance it should probably be at another school (JUCO, DII, OOC school etc.) I'm not sure how I'd feel about reinstating Paulk but my gut reaction is that we shouldn't because DV is such a big issue but OTOH it was a much smaller burst of violence that didn't result in charges so that complicates things. It's hard for schools to turn away a guy who has no record, not even charges.
However, I will say I'm more apt to say this because Paulk, despite being booted, has stayed on campus for a year since getting the boot and taken care of business without getting in trouble even though he knows his football career may well be gone. (The fact that we haven't reinstated him given our depth at RB and that he's been off the team for a year, gone through whatever DV programs, kept up with his academics and kept his nose clean is a bit surprising, especially since charges were never filed against him). We have Hurd and Kamara and ???? back there).
I don't mind second chances under the right circumstances and Paulk may be worth one (I don't know him well enough to say). BUT with Taylor he's had multiple chances despite serious incidents and just isn't worth it. And yes, I'd say that about him if he was on my own team as well. Taylor has proven himself bad news and doesn't deserve to be at an SEC school.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:46 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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You tried this joke already Lonnie. Go have sex with one of your wives and see if you can learn something original.
Sister Wives
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:51 pm to RT1941
This thread seems to be all over the place. From the title, I would assume the discussion would be about the recanting of the testimony.
Coach Saban has the right to dismiss a player for whatever reason he chooses. That should be the end of it. I still think most Alabama fans were never really comfortable with him being in, but again, that is the call of the coach.
I think this could serve as more of a teachable moment regarding domestic violence.
Family Law has a really good article about why some victims recant.
LINK
Coach Saban has the right to dismiss a player for whatever reason he chooses. That should be the end of it. I still think most Alabama fans were never really comfortable with him being in, but again, that is the call of the coach.
I think this could serve as more of a teachable moment regarding domestic violence.
Family Law has a really good article about why some victims recant.
LINK
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There's no universal reason why victims of domestic violence later recant statements against their attackers, but the close relationship between them usually plays a big role in changing the victim's story. In some situations, it's the fear of more violence in the future if the attacker is acquitted or the charges are dropped, or even after the attacker spent time behind bars. This fear is especially pronounced when local police and government resources exist to make sure victims are protected when their attackers are released.
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Victims may also face external pressure to recant when their attacker plays a significant role in their life or in the life of someone close to them.
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Surprisingly, some victims recant out of a sense of guilt. This is usually prompted by their attacker making themselves out to be a victim of the criminal justice system. In a study of jailhouse conversations between domestic violence perpetrators and their victims, researchers saw a pattern of the attackers minimizing the situation, then appealing for sympathy and, ultimately, asking the victim to recant.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:54 pm to coachcrisp
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but you didn't answer my question
The implication that you're wrong is there. But for the cheap seats, yes you're wrong.
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I mean "piggidyphish"...really?
Really
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what even is the frick with that?
a screen name.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:10 pm to piggidyphish
quote:Uhhh...ok.
a screen name.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:04 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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You tried this joke already Lonnie. Go have sex with one of your wives and see if you can learn something original.
I was born in SC dilbert. And I'm baptist, not momo.
But you still didn't answer the original question......
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:25 pm to auburnphan23
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Reminds me of Courtney Upshaw slapping around some girl and the girl's own dad blaming her
Roll god damn motherfricking tide baw
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:20 pm to derSturm37
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You, sir, are 100% correct. 100%. But haters are going to hate.
We all said when he was allowed on the team it shouldn't have happened and was the wrong thing to do. The latest incident just reinforced that notion. Even if the kid kept his shite together, it was still the wrong decision. There's no denying that.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:32 pm to StopRobot
Update on Al.com --- comments from investigator.
LINK I did not show the title in the link because it seems sensationalized given the context of the statements.
LINK I did not show the title in the link because it seems sensationalized given the context of the statements.
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Taylor's 24-year-old accuser has been charged with filing a false police report, a Class A misdemeanor, but Hart said her recanting doesn't erase the evidence that led to Taylor's arrest Saturday, which included bruising around her neck and a hole punched in a closet door.
"[Officers] observed injuries to her and damage to the apartment where she said the incident occurred," Hart said. "Based on what they say and based on her original statement, there was probable case to make the arrest."
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"With domestic violence issues, the victims will sometimes have second thoughts about what happened. There's always an emotional attachment, whether it's pure emotion or based on financial support or family support - there are several reasons why victims change their story after a domestic violence incident," Hart said. "It could be something like that, or, again, she could have fabricated the whole story and the charges against him are completely false. That's why we're still investigating this, to determine, if we can, exactly what happened."
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He said the investigation will take as long as it needs to, then all the information gathered will be given to the district attorney. Hart said neither the police department nor the sheriff's office can drop the charges against Taylor, that decision will fall on area courts.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 6:39 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Except Upshaw never slapped around a girl, and this girl has personally recanted her story, and you're a bumbling retard.
You're right - it was a choke slam.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:13 pm to StopRobot
Scared of being kilt for causing trouble in Saban's paradise. The drugs haven't completely fried her noggin 
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