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Is it time to set aside the "once in a generation" tag for players?
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:39 pm
The most obvious example of this is at the Quarterback position.
From 2006-2009, Tebow was a Heisman Trophy Winning, two time national Champion. Timmay set many offense records and was considered a once in a generation player.
The next year, Scam showed us he was the next in line. This past year's QB performances from tOSU should have been tipped off when you realize Scam was Tebow's backup. At Auburn in 2010, Scam won a Heisman and a National Title while being viewed as the "once in a generation," type of player.
After Scam left a year early, a RS Frosh hit the scene in Johnny Jizz Jar. Yet another in a growing list of Heisman Trophy winning, once in a generation prospects.
It stands to reason these kids would've overlapped each other and been here through next year if Manziel stayed to complete his eligibility. In other words, over the past 10 years-give or take-the SEC alone has produced QB's who won Three National Titles and Four Heisman's. These aren't once in a generation players. They're phenomenal talents that are beginning to become more and more prevalent in CFB.
From 2006-2009, Tebow was a Heisman Trophy Winning, two time national Champion. Timmay set many offense records and was considered a once in a generation player.
The next year, Scam showed us he was the next in line. This past year's QB performances from tOSU should have been tipped off when you realize Scam was Tebow's backup. At Auburn in 2010, Scam won a Heisman and a National Title while being viewed as the "once in a generation," type of player.
After Scam left a year early, a RS Frosh hit the scene in Johnny Jizz Jar. Yet another in a growing list of Heisman Trophy winning, once in a generation prospects.
It stands to reason these kids would've overlapped each other and been here through next year if Manziel stayed to complete his eligibility. In other words, over the past 10 years-give or take-the SEC alone has produced QB's who won Three National Titles and Four Heisman's. These aren't once in a generation players. They're phenomenal talents that are beginning to become more and more prevalent in CFB.
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:41 pm to GFunk
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Johnny Jizz Jar
Made me laugh
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:42 pm to GFunk
People still use "Scam" on here? Wow.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:44 pm to GFunk
I thought Jordan Jefferson was a once in a lifetime for lsu. i was wrong.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:48 pm to GFunk
Soon pro style QB's will become "once in a generation" type players
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:53 pm to GFunk
One of those isn't like the others.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:00 pm to GFunk
From an athleticism/size standpoint, Clowney was a once a generation player. If he had JJ Watt's work ethic then he could be the best DE ever to play the game. So it's pretty fortunate that they're on the same team.
I can't really think of any others that are actually once in a generation recently. DMAC was a once in a generation RB until Gurley came along. Now we've got Chubb who's already better than Gurley.
I can't really think of any others that are actually once in a generation recently. DMAC was a once in a generation RB until Gurley came along. Now we've got Chubb who's already better than Gurley.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:05 pm to GFunk
They were all once in a generation type players at their respective schools. Just like honeybadger will be a once in generation athlete at lsu.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:06 pm to The_Joker
Recently, Newton, Manziel, Tebow
A while back, H. Walker, B. Jackson
That may be it. Although I could consider Honey Badger.
It's still a nice tag.
A while back, H. Walker, B. Jackson
That may be it. Although I could consider Honey Badger.
It's still a nice tag.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:12 pm to TexAgChill
"once a gneration" could probably be replaced with "once a decade" and still be pretty true
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:21 pm to TexAgChill
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TexAgChill
Is it time to set aside the "once in a generation" tag for players? Recently, Newton, Manziel, Tebow A while back, H. Walker, B. Jackson That may be it. Although I could consider Honey Badger. It's still a nice tag.
I think this group is about it although throw out the Clowney senior year and he's right there as well.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:10 am to TexAgChill
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Recently, Newton, Manziel, Tebow
A while back, H. Walker, B. Jackson
That may be it. Although I could consider Honey Badger.
It's still a nice tag.
This is a good post and puts some things in perspective.
Since 1980 the SEC has had these 5 "once in a ________" players. I can't think of any others who belong in the same category. Someone else mentioned Clowney. Had he given 100% then probably.
That's 5 in 35 years. 1 every 7. So it's not a "once in a generation thing" but it's certainly not anything that has become trite and mundane.
If the SEC gets 3 more like this over the next 20 years then the pattern will appear established. If we get 3 like this over the next 10 then we are in for some amazing good times.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:13 am to GFunk
Yeah, we'll see the abuse of "once in a generation" stop right after we start having only a single "Game of the Century" per century.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:30 am to GFunk
Cam was the best qb I have ever seen play. What a freak.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:57 am to GFunk
I think the term is used mostly for NFL players or draft prospects.
It seems nowadays with the offenses run in CFB, and lack of defense, any QB in a spread offense can put up gaudy numbers.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 6:18 am to Dr. Shultz
One of those is not like the others. Cam under CGM was a once is a lifetime QB. In the Pros he has played in two pro bowls, started since his rookie year, led his team to back to back division titles (weak division) and has huge upside potential. He has showed that he is a class act, gives to the community and has been a model citizen.
Even though he was attacked by the media and opposing fans, he handled himself well. The NCAA cleared Auburn for MSU's misdeeds. There never was any evidence (after a colonoscopy by the NCAA, the Media and opposing fans) that Auburn or Cam did anything wrong.
Even though he was attacked by the media and opposing fans, he handled himself well. The NCAA cleared Auburn for MSU's misdeeds. There never was any evidence (after a colonoscopy by the NCAA, the Media and opposing fans) that Auburn or Cam did anything wrong.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:42 am to GFunk
Here is the difference.
Tebow - no NFL game.
Jizz Jar - ??? NFL game. Probably never.
Newton - He is the only player in the modern era to be awarded the Heisman Trophy, win a national championship, and become the first overall pick in the NFL draft all in the same one-year span.
In his rookie year, Newton broke numerous rookie and all-time NFL records for passing and running the ball. He became the first rookie quarterback to throw for 400 yards in his first game, shattering Peyton Manning's first-game record by 120 yards. He also broke Otto Graham's 61-year-old record for passing yards by any quarterback in an NFL debut. Newton would go on to become the first rookie quarterback to throw for 4,000 yards in a season, as well as the first rookie quarterback to rush for 700 yards. He also ran for 14 touchdowns, more in a single season than any quarterback in NFL history, breaking Steve Grogan's 35-year-old record.
Don't get me started on directing that pathetic franchise to TWO CONSECUTIVE Divisional titles.
One of these three guys deserves the title. The others, not so much.
Tebow - no NFL game.
Jizz Jar - ??? NFL game. Probably never.
Newton - He is the only player in the modern era to be awarded the Heisman Trophy, win a national championship, and become the first overall pick in the NFL draft all in the same one-year span.
In his rookie year, Newton broke numerous rookie and all-time NFL records for passing and running the ball. He became the first rookie quarterback to throw for 400 yards in his first game, shattering Peyton Manning's first-game record by 120 yards. He also broke Otto Graham's 61-year-old record for passing yards by any quarterback in an NFL debut. Newton would go on to become the first rookie quarterback to throw for 4,000 yards in a season, as well as the first rookie quarterback to rush for 700 yards. He also ran for 14 touchdowns, more in a single season than any quarterback in NFL history, breaking Steve Grogan's 35-year-old record.
Don't get me started on directing that pathetic franchise to TWO CONSECUTIVE Divisional titles.
One of these three guys deserves the title. The others, not so much.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:49 am to GFunk
Timmay, Scam, Johnny Jizz Jar
I hate when schools are in holiday and kids get to stay awake past their normal bed times
I hate when schools are in holiday and kids get to stay awake past their normal bed times
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:58 am to SECdragonmaster
We all agree that Cam Newton was almost certainly the best of the best. But to say that Tebow and Manziel weren't special, that neither was a "once in a blue fog" type entity, is either grossly negligent or an outright lie.
You don't say that Herschel wasn't a "once in a great while" phenom because of Bo Jackson. And you don't say it about Bo because of Herschel. Both were "once upon a time" type enigmas.
Cam Newton was/is a perfect specimen. God gave him a lot, and he's done a lot with it. Tebow had the heart of a Viking assured of Valhalla and Johnny just refused to lose even when he had to.
EDIT: And NFL careers have NOTHING to do with it anyway. There's no shortage of NFL boards where you can talk about the NFL.
You don't say that Herschel wasn't a "once in a great while" phenom because of Bo Jackson. And you don't say it about Bo because of Herschel. Both were "once upon a time" type enigmas.
Cam Newton was/is a perfect specimen. God gave him a lot, and he's done a lot with it. Tebow had the heart of a Viking assured of Valhalla and Johnny just refused to lose even when he had to.
EDIT: And NFL careers have NOTHING to do with it anyway. There's no shortage of NFL boards where you can talk about the NFL.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 8:03 am
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:22 am to GFunk
I still think it is appropriate. I don't think its just "once a generation", but a very select few.
The Heisman is handed out every year. Many times, the players that win it have extremely talented teams and players to work with. Definitely the case with Tebow. Manziel had an amazing college receiving corps his Heisman year with a great QB coach.
Peyton, Tom Brady are relatively close in age, but are far and away considered two of the best players (possibly ever) to play the game.
"Once in a generation" is just an ideal....not perfect...but you get the idea.
The Heisman is handed out every year. Many times, the players that win it have extremely talented teams and players to work with. Definitely the case with Tebow. Manziel had an amazing college receiving corps his Heisman year with a great QB coach.
Peyton, Tom Brady are relatively close in age, but are far and away considered two of the best players (possibly ever) to play the game.
"Once in a generation" is just an ideal....not perfect...but you get the idea.
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