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So...leadership in the locker room....
Posted on 3/31/15 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 3/31/15 at 5:31 pm
Does it even exist right now? I know these have all been off-the-field incidents but my lord.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 5:36 pm to RollTide1987
Leadership isn't going to stop dumbasses from making dumbass decisions.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 5:46 pm to RollTide1987
We've been missing that swagged-out, alpha dog, vocal leader since Upshaw left. I'm thinking one of our D-Lineman will need to step up and assume the role on defense.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 5:52 pm to RollTide1987
It's time for JK Scott to assume the role he was born for.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 6:09 pm to PrettyLights
I hope it's C-Rob, OJ, or Ragland.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 6:14 pm to RollTide1987
God you people are melting way too hard. Alabama could lose half the team to misdemeanor and the like and still win 10 games a year.
Stop being a bitch and get over it. Whether any of you like it or not, more often than not football is an outlet for future jail birds to release their criminal tendencies amongst others of their kind. Only difference is it is legal and paid for by you, the fans. Alabama already has a reputation of doing anything to win so it's not like it's any different from any other team that whoops arse in football throughout the decades. They're being dismissed from the team and all is done with. Besides, didn't Alabama have 24 arrests from 2006-2008 up until the beginning of that very season? Be greatful we don't have to deal with cocaine dealers and much worse things like back in that time.
Roll Tide.
Stop being a bitch and get over it. Whether any of you like it or not, more often than not football is an outlet for future jail birds to release their criminal tendencies amongst others of their kind. Only difference is it is legal and paid for by you, the fans. Alabama already has a reputation of doing anything to win so it's not like it's any different from any other team that whoops arse in football throughout the decades. They're being dismissed from the team and all is done with. Besides, didn't Alabama have 24 arrests from 2006-2008 up until the beginning of that very season? Be greatful we don't have to deal with cocaine dealers and much worse things like back in that time.
Roll Tide.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 6:17 pm to FourThreeForty
What does that have to do with leadership in the locker room? EDIT: Not trying to be dismissive of your point, as I agree that the team is definitely better off now than they were through the Shula years, and for a brief bit afterward. I just agree more with the OP that there doesn't seem to be much leadership with the team right now, when this weekend showed that it couldn't hurt.
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 6:21 pm to UsingUpAllTheLetters
One word... A'Shawn
But we all have to recognize that this is the result of having 5 star guy after 5 star guy. Most of these players are only focused on "self" and getting to the league. I can't fault any of them, but I'm sure a 3 star kid from Bama would care about the image of the team over a 5 star kid from Florida who selected Bama due to the "Saban draft" pedigree. Needless to say, I think Saban will have to identify his Alpha males and force them to be leaders in the locker room. (i.e. If player "A" is loafing and Reggie doesn't get in his a$$, Saban punishes Reggie for not lighting a fire under Player "A")
But we all have to recognize that this is the result of having 5 star guy after 5 star guy. Most of these players are only focused on "self" and getting to the league. I can't fault any of them, but I'm sure a 3 star kid from Bama would care about the image of the team over a 5 star kid from Florida who selected Bama due to the "Saban draft" pedigree. Needless to say, I think Saban will have to identify his Alpha males and force them to be leaders in the locker room. (i.e. If player "A" is loafing and Reggie doesn't get in his a$$, Saban punishes Reggie for not lighting a fire under Player "A")
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:22 pm to RollTide1987
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Does it even exist right now? I know these have all been off-the-field incidents but my lord.
What does leadership have to do with individuals making stupid decisions?
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:29 pm to RollTide1987
I don't think the program is coming apart but I don't think we have the kind of leadership that we had on the team for the first four years of Saban's tenure. That's to expected though with star players leaving after 3 years and the program no longer being in the "building" stage.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:55 pm to FairhopeTider
You're not gonna find any "leaders" who are going around policing their teammates off the field. Even if you have an individual who is interested in doing so, he won't be respected by most of his teammates.
Tyren was a bad apple. He was very talented but he didn't buy in to the program. He was always in trouble and in Saban's doghouse.
Tyren was a bad apple. He was very talented but he didn't buy in to the program. He was always in trouble and in Saban's doghouse.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:08 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
This.
Lol at thinking a few idiots doing dumb things is because the captains aren't spending their free time lurking campus and making sure everyone is doing right 100% of the time.
Lol at thinking a few idiots doing dumb things is because the captains aren't spending their free time lurking campus and making sure everyone is doing right 100% of the time.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:17 pm to RollTide1987
better to rid the team of bad apples now than in the season where the distractions could be devastating.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:06 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
OJ is the softest player on the team, won't be him
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:25 am to phaz
I think from what we've heard, Ragland is trying to step up. I liked hearing what we heard the other day about Reggie being tired of Bo acting like he's all that when he hasn't done anything and making it a point to shut the young kid up and humble him.
A'Shawn and Jon Allen can step up too.
Coker seems more like a cool and collected "lead by example" type than a guy who will hype everyone up, so the offense needs guys like Henry and C-Rob stepping up.
I hate seeing practices and a lot of groups where no one is talking. In between the coach doing his thing and coaching up the players, I think each group needs an alpha dog or two who is telling everyone else what they did wrong, encouraging them when they do it right, hyping them up for practice, etc.
A'Shawn and Jon Allen can step up too.
Coker seems more like a cool and collected "lead by example" type than a guy who will hype everyone up, so the offense needs guys like Henry and C-Rob stepping up.
I hate seeing practices and a lot of groups where no one is talking. In between the coach doing his thing and coaching up the players, I think each group needs an alpha dog or two who is telling everyone else what they did wrong, encouraging them when they do it right, hyping them up for practice, etc.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:50 am to RollTide1987
Good leadership isn't about monitoring each player off the field ensuring they don't get into trouble. It's about setting a standard. It's about mentoring the young players. It's about creating an environment where everyone knows that doing things the right way is the only thing that's acceptable. If those things are in place, you typically won't see a rash of incidents like we've seen.
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:08 am to RollTide1987
It's lacking for sure. If we need a better example of it's importance I would just refer to the year after Samuals and Alexander graduated.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:05 am to PrettyLights
That group was full of alpha dogs, that's why they were the baddest defense of this millenium. Upshaw, Hightower, Barron, Kirkpatrick, Chapman all played that way.
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