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re: Women proposing to their boyfriends.

Posted on 3/31/15 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by JonaYolles
Member since Feb 2015
315 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 5:35 pm to
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Live-in relationships followed by marriage never make it.




That's just absurd
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 5:51 pm to
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I have a friend that wants to propose to her boyfriend after 3.5 years together. Both work full-time and live together. Relationship seems to be strong, but she is tired of waiting on him to pop the question. I think it may blow up on her face. Thoughts?


By "blow up in her face" you mean that he admits that he never wants to marry her and she can move on with her life if she wants to get married to someone? That's a painful initial event. But it's best in the long run for her.

I'm not sure proposing is the best way. But it will certainly bring some answers which she apparently wants.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66998 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 5:53 pm to
Does that mean that he gets an expensive piece of Jewelry instead? The guy seems alpha as frick.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 5:53 pm to
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The sooner they get married, the sooner they'll be history. Live-in relationships followed by marriage never make it.


Well, that's silly. They have a lower success rate than couples who don't live together prior to marriage. But plenty of them still make it.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18798 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 6:02 pm to
I got no prob with it. If my girl was 100% sure I was going to propose at some point and beat me to it id be fine with that. However, chances are that he doesn't want to marry her and is too scared to say it. Either way, she'll have her answer. I say she should go for it.
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 6:05 pm to
She probably already makes him sit down when he pees. This seems apropos.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
27179 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 6:25 pm to
She should have never given him the butt sex. Now he knows he has her trapped in dating purgatory. If she stays, he can dictate the terms of the relationship without doing a damn thing-such as is the case now. If she leaves, he's telling everyone he got da butt.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14094 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 6:57 pm to
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Well, that's silly. They have a lower success rate than couples who don't live together prior to marriage. But plenty of them still make it.


I personally have never seen it work out and I've known dozens and dozens of couples that been down this road, including myself. Every single marriage failed and even the subject and pressure of marriage ended the some of them.

But good luck
Posted by derSturm37
Texas
Member since May 2013
1521 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:18 pm to
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She should have never given him the butt sex. Now he knows he has her trapped in dating purgatory. If she stays, he can dictate the terms of the relationship without doing a damn thing-such as is the case now. If she leaves, he's telling everyone he got da butt.

Do you think women really take da butt sex that seriously? Like they'd feel stuck with a dude afterward? That's wild. If you're right then I've learned something new today.

I've had my fair share of true booty. It almost always meant a turning point for me: like OK you've done all you can do with this one; time to move on. There is something very rewarding about knowing that for the rest of our lives, any time I see you, I'll be thinking to myself, "I've been in that arse!"
Posted by derSturm37
Texas
Member since May 2013
1521 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:19 pm to
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I personally have never seen it work out and I've known dozens and dozens of couples that been down this road, including myself. Every single marriage failed and even the subject and pressure of marriage ended the some of them.

Is it cheifly because the guy goes into the marriage thinking the rules have been defined and then finds out immediately that all manor of (invisible) things have suddenly changed?
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

Live-in relationships followed by marriage never make it.


quote:

That's just absurd


Not really. Couples that go into marriage having lived together are more than twice as likely to be divorced after 5 years.

So, while they don't "never" make it, the odds are certainly less in their favor.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:47 pm to
I would be mortified if a woman ever did this to me... but do you get out of having top buy an engagement ring? Might not be a bad deal.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:48 pm to
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Not really. Couples that go into marriage having lived together are more than twice as likely to be divorced after 5 years.

So, while they don't "never" make it, the odds are certainly less in their favor.


I'd like to see the research behind this.3
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15163 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:37 am to
Not sure if they have had the discussion. I didn't think to ask. But I do think it's not a good idea. And do also believe that it is something he will always feel she is holding over his head lol
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:36 am to
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Couples that go into marriage having lived together are more than twice as likely to be divorced after 5 years.


That's why you live together and don't bother with marriage.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:40 am to
He meant to say marriages never make it, would be pretty damn accurate in current times. Oh, 33 years and going strong here.
Posted by derSturm37
Texas
Member since May 2013
1521 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:24 am to
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that it is something he will always feel she is holding over his head

Best believe it.

Unless she has a penis. Has she a penis? No? Then she'll be miffed about it unto the latest stage of Alzheimer's.

She'll bitch about it a lot at first. Just out of the blue. Things will have gone swimmingly for two weeks. He'll come home from work and she'll be puffed up and huffy. After a few months he'll recognize it the instant he sees it.

There will be nothing he can say. Nothing he can do. He will explain this. It won't help. He'll long for a time machine.

Into their third year she won't bring it up more than every four months. A few years later it will be a circa six months thing. But for the rest of their lives together it will be there. There's no Jesus in women. They don't forgive. They don't forget a god damned thing.

One day when they're in their eighties he'll come back from the mailbox and she'll be huffy, again. He'll recognize it right off. After seven years of apparent placidity. He'll bow his head and amble off to another room and quietly curse his fate, again.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 8:26 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:58 am to
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Not really. Couples that go into marriage having lived together are more than twice as likely to be divorced after 5 years. So, while they don't "never" make it, the odds are certainly less in their favor.


I didn't know that. I would figure the opposite to be true.
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
14411 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:58 am to
He has yet to provide proof. I wouldn't take that as being fact. Unless you're dumb, then go ahead
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:05 am to
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I didn't know that. I would figure the opposite to be true.


The opposite certainly isn't true.

Arranged marriages have a far higher rate of success than marriages which aren't arranged. That's counterintuitive to our thinking, as well.

More recent data has purported to show that it's not really co-habiting that drives down the success of the marriage, but the circumstances. If you wait until later to cohabit, the effect decreases. If you get pregnant cohabiting before marriage, there's some indication that the marriage is less likely to succeed. It's a pretty complex picture that can't be made into "cohabiting couples get divorced."
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