re: More Annoying: Over-proselytizing Christians or Militant Atheists?

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One of these is not like the other The over-proselytizing ones can get annoying, but that's about it. The militant Atheists are an actual problem in society.

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When was he last time an atheist shot up a clinic or protested a soldiers funeral because of their lack of belief?

So you can't put the 10 commandments or a nativity scene in town square. Big deal.

Christians, because there are more of them and there are several in government that help make our laws.

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there are several in government

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There's a few more than several. At least in name alone. Religion is politics. Always has been.

The over the top Christians are annoying but if they truly believe what they preach, it's what they should be doing. Sure they can be over the top, but at least in generally comes from a good place.

The militant atheist on the other hand, seems to enjoy feeling smarter than believers. It's more mean spirited. Who cares what silly things people believe in as long as it makes them happy and doesn't hurt anyone else?

Like others have said due to quantity it's the Christians. In the places I've spent most of my life being preached to and proselytized on any given corner and at any given restauruant booth is just how the world works.

I've had only one Muslim start trying to teach me the way. I interrupted him after less than a minute, opened my eyes wide, and said, "Look, Dude. I've got blue eyes." He shut up, smiled, and we started talking about other things.

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When was he last time an atheist shot up a clinic or protested a soldiers funeral because of their lack of belief?

So you can't put the 10 commandments or a nativity scene in town square. Big deal.

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Wasn't that an atheist who just shot-up the Muslims in the RTP over a parking dispute?

Listen, both are the same.

With organized religion it is about power and control ... you voluntarily tithe (a religious tax if you will) 10% to the affiliated church of your choice with the hope of it doing-good while you are here on earth and thus helping to earn your way into a decent afterlife ... Heaven.

Atheists' religion is big government and science. Again, it's all about power and control except you are involuntarily taxed to the tune of about 50% of your total income and you really have no hope that it is going to do anyone any good nor do you care about your afterlife. You are simply content and happy with the knowledge that you and everything about you is owned by Big Brother and that once your short and miserable time here on earth has reached its' end you will become compost of some sort and life goes on as if you were never here in the first place.

It's really all a big waste for atheists in the overall scheme of things.

At least militant atheists hope that's the case - they try to convince us all the time of how innocent they are (their relgion is) in all things violent and destructive on this earth ... when, in fact, truth be known, they probably have more to do with stirring the shite pot on a daily basis than any of us really know.

I mean most hollyweirdos are ex-Jews turned atheists, (this is true look it up). From the Jewish culture has sprung both atheism and communism - this is a well-known fact. They are the most militant atheists of them all with their soul mission in life (pardon the pun) to shove atheism down our throats through every program, practically every movie, via every modern art-form or social media outlet imaginable.

(Jews have also given us a great deal of our science and medicine among other things. They can be great thinkers at times.)

Wonder why?

One need only look at the left's playbook to understand why religion has to go in their opinion ... because until religion is totally gone, the socialists and communists cannot control the world.

Alynsky's 12 Steps

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* RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)


* RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don’t address the “real” issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)

* RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)

* RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)


* RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)


* RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid “un-fun” activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)


* RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)


* RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)


* RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists’ minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)


* RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management’s wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)


* RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)


* RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

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And no you atheists ... Jesus was not a communist.

I'm not crazy about organized religion although I will overtly proselytize that Christianity, in its modern Protestant (Lutheran mainly) form, is totally peaceful and giving and understanding and forgiving ... as any organized religion should be.

Islam is the exact opposite.

... but then, so is atheism.

In other words, Islam and atheism are far more alike and have far more in-common than does most organized Protestant religions.

So the question begs, what about the Jews?

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From the Jewish culture has sprung both atheism and communism - this is a well-known fact.

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You can't say that, man. Not because it's a lie. It's probably true. And particular truths, when said about certain people (pretty much anyone who isn't as white, gentile, and heterosexual as I) are PRECISELY the kinds of things you're no longer allowed to say. (This is called political correctness and has been propagated, if not invented, by those about whom you've just said something!)

Besides it's straight from Mein Kampf. Which means you can't say it. ESPECIALLY if it's true.

Bad Rooster. Bad Rooster. Bad.

Militant atheists, most believe what they believe for really shitty reasons and make it pretty much impossible to reasonably talk to religious people because they associate all non-believers with angry youtube videos. At least most Christians believe for decent enough personal reasons.

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A Christian is telling you that because they don't want you to go to hell. You may think "hey, i don't believe in hell, so whatever" but they're doing it out of a desire to help and better you and because they care about your soul.

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Or there are just bigoted pretentious elitists. I'm not saying what you're saying is false, merely that there are other reasons a "Christian" would talk down to an atheist/agnostic/Jew/Muslim.

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Christians might be more annoying but they're better people.

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I simply don't believe that's true.



In response to the original premise, I find them both annoying. Different scenarios for each.