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re: Seth Davis ranks SEC bball coaches, says it is possibly best group in America
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:40 am to law unforcement
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:40 am to law unforcement
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Mike Anderson had one good year at UAB out of four and one good year at Missouri out of five. Nine seasons and only two good ones, with one tie for a conference title, hardly defines success. This year's Arkansas team only played 1 of the other top nine teams in the conference twice. Every other team played at least three of the top 9 twice. Meanwhile, Arkansas played 4 of the five bottom teams twice. No other team played more than 2 of the bottom five twice. With that schedule and only having to play Kentucky once, a good coach would've had the Hogs contending for the title. Middle of the pack coach gets middle of the pack results. This year's underachievement was glossed over by the relatively lightweight schedule. It is what it is.
Hey clown...Do you realize the dumpster fire Mike has walked into at every new job??? The UAB program won 13 games the year prior to his arriving and hadn't been to a post-season tourney since 1995. Mizzou was deep in the Quin Snyder cocaine scandal when Mike arrived. BTW....His winning percentage is tops in UAB and MIZZOu history for any coach that has coached 3 or more years at that school. Regarding his Arkansas tenure... Pelphrey tried to sink the program and Mike came in dealing with APR issues yet his teams here have improved every year. 18, 19, 22, 27, wins. Regardless of anything, Mike is family to Hog fans and was on the bench with Nolan for 3 of our program's 6 Final Fours and 2 National Title games. Hawgball ...runnin' gunnin, trapping, pressing your arse till it bleeds is what we are. It's in our DNA and he gets that. He is the perfect fit for Arkansas Basketball. His winning percentage and history of building programs speaks for itself. BTW Arkansas was one of 3 schools in all of college basketball with 3 Top 25 rpi ROAD WINS in 2015.. Spin that clown. BTW...Who do you root for??? Because unless your Kentucky or maybe 10 other programs in all of the NCAA ...Arkansas' Basketball tradition is better than your teams. I can prove it with facts and numbers....Yes, we are entering yet another era of great Arkansas Basketball and you hate it. 1941, 1945, 1978, 1990, 1994, 1995 Final Fours....Guess what???? That's the 9th most FF's of ANY program...This aint a flash in the pan program with success under only 1 coach... Arkansas have sustained our 31 tournament invites and 6 Final Fours in multiple decades and multiple HOF coaches. And Mike is gonna continue this pattern. You jealous bastard.
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:13 am to volfan30
With all the coaching talent in the league, we better become one of the top conferences (and actually beat some notable OOC teams). If not, it will kind of show most SEC schools don't have means (either through resources, inherent recruiting advantages, competition with football) to be successful in basketball.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:32 am to Corndawg23
Should've made the NIT this year, especially considering the quality of teams that USC not only beat, but straight-up dominated.
Martin has done a great job at USC, considering what he inherited. I think they'll make the tourney next year, and be at the top of the conference with the next-step below UK. He's got some legit talent coming back, and a great deal of talent coming in.
Martin has done a great job at USC, considering what he inherited. I think they'll make the tourney next year, and be at the top of the conference with the next-step below UK. He's got some legit talent coming back, and a great deal of talent coming in.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:26 pm to volfan30
Cal
Donovan
Howland
the rest
Donovan
Howland
the rest
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:32 pm to volfan30
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Billy Kennedy and Johnny Jones have shown they can bring in players, too
And neither has any idea what to do with them when they get them.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:46 pm to volfan30
It should be made pretty clear at this point in this thread that the following are true:
Pearl is not a better coach than Howland.
Kennedy is underrated.
JJ and Billy are the two worst coaches in the league. Excluding Mizzou's coach for obvious reasons.
Pearl is not a better coach than Howland.
Kennedy is underrated.
JJ and Billy are the two worst coaches in the league. Excluding Mizzou's coach for obvious reasons.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:46 pm to SwayzeBalla
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That really is a solid list. AK at 8 seems low considering what he's done at OM, but I can't make an argument for moving him in front of anyone ahead of him.
Pretty much where I stand with Jones. I like him a lot, and he's done a good job given the cards he was dealt. However, a lot of these coaches have final 4's on their resumes. Difficult to argue with that
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:47 pm to cheo25
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And neither has any idea what to do with them when they get them.
This guy gets it.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:49 pm to DynastyDawg
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Pearl is not a better coach than Howland.
No, it's not. Howland's agent knew these other jobs would open up, so it's not like he chose State over a multitude of job offers
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Kennedy is underrated.
agreed.
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JJ and Billy are the two worst coaches in the league.
It's honestly not clear at all. Jones has done a good job with the shite hand he was dealt, and he accomplished things at UNT no one in their 100 year history could accomplish. If Jones is underwhelming next season you're probably right, but Jones could have gotten the exact same results Martin did with that ridiculously loaded Kansas State team. Otherwise his first three seasons are arguably better than Mike Anderson's and undoubtably better than Martin's
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:58 pm to tigerbait2010
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Howland's agent knew these other jobs would open up, so it's not like he chose State over a multitude of job offers
You didn't say what you wanted to there, I don't think. Regardless, the school he is at, does not determine how good of a coach he is. I'm not really sure what you are getting at here, or why you even brought State up along with "all the other jobs". My statement was Howland over Pearl straight up. So what is the point of your statement?
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:01 pm to DynastyDawg
My point is that there were more high profile jobs available this off-season, and he chose State.
I'm not saying State is some sort of career-killing job, but if schools thought he was an elite coach that could take the program to the next level, he would have gone to Bama or Texas.
Now I could be way off, and Texas and Bama knew they were highly likely going to land Smart and Marshall...meaning they like Howland, but there are younger options that are willing to leave.
I'm not saying State is some sort of career-killing job, but if schools thought he was an elite coach that could take the program to the next level, he would have gone to Bama or Texas.
Now I could be way off, and Texas and Bama knew they were highly likely going to land Smart and Marshall...meaning they like Howland, but there are younger options that are willing to leave.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:08 pm to tigerbait2010
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he would have gone to Bama or Texas.
Bama is a "high profile job"? Why? Because they're good at football?
You come across as a pretty level headed guy, but you like to slip your thinly-veiled troll attempts in there when possible.
If they're not troll attempts then I'm not sure I can help you.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:12 pm to DynastyDawg
At least the other coaches on this list are D1 coaches, our coach is by far last and it's not even close.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:13 pm to DynastyDawg
Bama has a better history, better facilities, and deeper pockets than State. State has a nice practice facility, but I'm skeptical the hump is nicer than coleman
Texas wasn't a consistent power either before Barnes, but with its money and location, the ceiling has no limit
Nah, I'm not trolling
I think State is a respectable job with a lower ceiling than the other school's shopping for coaches
Texas wasn't a consistent power either before Barnes, but with its money and location, the ceiling has no limit
Nah, I'm not trolling
I think State is a respectable job with a lower ceiling than the other school's shopping for coachesPosted on 3/31/15 at 1:19 pm to tigerbait2010
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Bama has a better history
Actually, it's pretty close to the same. They have a few more appearances in the tourney, granted that most of them are prior to 1987, and we have a final four and they don't. It's not "a better history".
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better facilities
fricking L-O-L
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deeper pockets than State
True.
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State has a nice practice facility, but I'm skeptical the hump is nicer than coleman
Then you have obviously never been to either, or you are just being dumb for the fun of it.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:22 pm to DynastyDawg
I'm just skeptical from a picture standpoint. I'm a student and don't have the freedom to travel to SEC basketball games Coleman looks like a very nice arena with a shitty seating chart. The Hump looks like there's not a bad seat in the house with less amenities
Coleman looks like a very nice arena with a shitty seating chart. The Hump looks like there's not a bad seat in the house with less amenities Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:25 pm to tigerbait2010
Well I can tell you for sure because I've been to Coleman many times, when Ole Miss moves out of the Tad Pad, Coleman will be the shittiest arena in the SEC.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:47 pm to volfan30
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Who would you move him ahead of? Martin?
You could argue everyone but Cal, Donovan, and Anderson.
If you truly look at what the guy has done, with the facilities and talent he's had, it's insane.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 2:16 pm to Corch Urban Myers
what has pearl done? What is the furthest he has made it in the NCAA tourney
Posted on 3/31/15 at 2:35 pm to swinetime
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