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re: Multiple Reports: Rick Barnes to be named new basketball coach at Tennessee
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:12 pm to notsince98
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:12 pm to notsince98
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notsince98
I think I know the answer to this, but what's the story behind your username?
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:12 pm to elposter
Just means that Texas is fully prepared to throw the kitchen sink at Marshall.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:20 pm to Alabamya
I would argue top 5, to be honest. He is great with X's and O's, and turned Wichita St into a perennial threat to do damage in the tournament. I envy the program that inks him....
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:22 pm to casublett1
quote:Holy shite
I would argue top 5, to be honest
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:29 pm to lsupride87
Just for perspective purposes Greg Marshall is 20th in win percentage among active coaches while residing in perhaps the worst conference in America. Lets be real here, he in no way is top 10.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:35 pm to lsupride87
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Coachk - no argument
Pitino - no argument
Izzo - no argument
Cal - no argument
Donovan - no argument
Roy - no argument
Self - I like Self, but this is the guy Marsall JUST beat in the NCAA tourney with less talent, correct?
Ollie - has a title, hard to beat, but that's his only metric. Would you say he's better than Smart, Pearl, Few, Self, Miller, or others without title? Doubtful. How'd he do this year? How about his first year? He's got to prove his 2nd season wasn't fluke/flash in pan. Hell, Chizik won a title too.
Boeheim - meh. title? yes. trouble? hell yes.
Ryan - 15 years older than Marshall. How did he look at 52 compared to Marshall's results thus far?
Miller - how is he better than Marshall? I've been told Final Fours are a HUGE metric (since Bama's never made one) and Marshall has him beat here.
Smart - tied on # of Final Fours. Marshall more Sweet 16s. Shaka inherited strong program. Marshall did not. Win %s are similar.
Matta - subjective, but I could make a case for him. he's at a school with embarrassment of resources
Few - stable and consistent. Zero final four appearances in 16 years at Gonzaga. One Elite Eight (this year).
Wright - same # of final fours. Marshall better win percentage. Wright hasn't made past 2nd round in 6 years.
6 no arguments. The rest are debatable. Marshall would walk into SEC as the 3rd best coach in conference.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:37 pm to bamasgot13
quote:Boeheim, Self, Ollie, Matta are also no arguments
The rest are debatable.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:39 pm to yellowhammer2098
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good hire for UT.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:40 pm to bamasgot13
Ease up on that hyperbole.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:42 pm to cave canem
Where is he in win % in the past five years? The guy had to build the program.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:46 pm to bamasgot13
No. Coach School Yrs. Won Lost Pct.
1. Mark Few.........................Gonzaga ............................................... 14 374 93 .801
2. Roy Williams ..................North Carolina ................................... 25 700 180 .795
3. Thad Matta .....................Ohio St. .................................................. 13 352 104 .772
4. Mike Krzyzewski ..........Duke ....................................................... 38 957 297 .763
5. John Calipari ..................Kentucky............................................... 21 526 164 .762
6. Dave Rose .......................BYU ......................................................... 8 209 66 .760
7. Bo Ryan ............................Wisconsin ............................................. 29 674 216 .757
8. Bill Self ..............................Kansas .................................................... 20 507 164 .756
9. Jamie Dixon ...................Pittsburgh ............................................ 10 262 86 .753
10. Jim Boeheim ..................Syracuse ................................................ 37 920 314 .746
11. Rick Pitino .......................Louisville ............................................... 28 664 239 .735
12. Bob Huggins..................West Virginia ....................................... 31 723 286 .717
13. Tom Izzo ..........................Michigan St. ........................................ 18 439 178 .712
14. Larry Brown ...................SMU ........................................................ 8 187 77 .708
15. Billy Donovan ................Florida .................................................... 19 450 186 .708
16. Danny Kaspar ................Texas St. ................................................ 22 465 193 .707
17. Sean Miller ......................Arizona .................................................. 9 216 90 .706
18. Tubby Smith ..................Texas Tech ............................................ 22 511 226 .693
19. Stew Morrill ....................Utah St. .................................................. 27 584 267 .686
20. Gregg Marshall .............Wichita St. ............................................ 15 333 153 .685
MVC and no better than 20th
1. Mark Few.........................Gonzaga ............................................... 14 374 93 .801
2. Roy Williams ..................North Carolina ................................... 25 700 180 .795
3. Thad Matta .....................Ohio St. .................................................. 13 352 104 .772
4. Mike Krzyzewski ..........Duke ....................................................... 38 957 297 .763
5. John Calipari ..................Kentucky............................................... 21 526 164 .762
6. Dave Rose .......................BYU ......................................................... 8 209 66 .760
7. Bo Ryan ............................Wisconsin ............................................. 29 674 216 .757
8. Bill Self ..............................Kansas .................................................... 20 507 164 .756
9. Jamie Dixon ...................Pittsburgh ............................................ 10 262 86 .753
10. Jim Boeheim ..................Syracuse ................................................ 37 920 314 .746
11. Rick Pitino .......................Louisville ............................................... 28 664 239 .735
12. Bob Huggins..................West Virginia ....................................... 31 723 286 .717
13. Tom Izzo ..........................Michigan St. ........................................ 18 439 178 .712
14. Larry Brown ...................SMU ........................................................ 8 187 77 .708
15. Billy Donovan ................Florida .................................................... 19 450 186 .708
16. Danny Kaspar ................Texas St. ................................................ 22 465 193 .707
17. Sean Miller ......................Arizona .................................................. 9 216 90 .706
18. Tubby Smith ..................Texas Tech ............................................ 22 511 226 .693
19. Stew Morrill ....................Utah St. .................................................. 27 584 267 .686
20. Gregg Marshall .............Wichita St. ............................................ 15 333 153 .685
MVC and no better than 20th
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:47 pm to lsupride87
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Boeheim, Self, Ollie, Matta are also no arguments
Ollie? He's coached a total of 3 years. In his first year they were ineligible for the tourney (but wouldn't have made it with their 20-10 record and 10-8 conference record). In his second year they had an amazing run and won it all. In his third year they lost in the first round of the NIT. We need to see whether or not that 2nd season is a fluke or not because right now it is the extreme outlier.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:49 pm to bamasgot13
National titles are national titles. Hard to ignore that
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:52 pm to cave canem
Your numbers are 2 years old, dude. He's gone 65-6 since.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:53 pm to volfan30
It's an upgrade over Tyndall. If true, it's a great hire.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:58 pm to Marty McFrat
I think Tenn got a really good coach and exceptional recruiter. Good for them!!
Posted on 3/30/15 at 5:05 pm to lsupride87
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National titles are national titles. Hard to ignore that
agree. doesn't make one a better coach than another. Is Chizik better than Chip Peterson? How about Larry Coker? Is he better than Mark Richt? Are Chizik OR Coker better than Malzahn?
The answer to each of those questions is no. In each case, the coach without the title is better than the coach with a title. Titles are trump cards when comparing similar resumes. When they are the extreme exception to what your resume looks like, they are often considered won in spite of you, not because of you.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 5:13 pm to bamasgot13
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SEC picking up another shady recruiter to go along with Pearl and the LSU coach. The neighborhood sure is going downhill fast
SEC picking up another shady recruiter to go along with Pearl and the LSU coach. The neighborhood sure is going downhill fast
Posted on 3/30/15 at 5:14 pm to volfan30
fricking creepy beaknose skeletor frick
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