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re: ESPN: Taylor Arrest Exposes Alabama
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:17 am to dstone12
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:17 am to dstone12
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Funny thing is: They live in a state where it is the cop's fault for arresting him or the girl's fault for pissing him off. "This is Alabama Football,dammit. Everyone in this state should know their role when it comes to our beloved team. Our players are above the law and our football prowess is a God-given gift. So don't get in the way of that and you can avoid exile to Mississippi ".
You can't have it both ways,Alice. Some of you clowns are screaming about all the Alabama players with arrests and citations, NOW you're hollering that these guys are "above the law"! All you jealous, envious bitches make up your minds! Which is it?
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:18 am to derSturm37
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Your post is good. Your sentiment is solid. But if he's not a football player then he isn't going to be a student, and if he's not a student then no one is going to pay to put him in a treatment center. We're back to square one, in other words. You either give him a chance to be a college football player or you send him back home an unemployable felon.
My main point was that keeping him at a university should not be an option. If he goes back to the street an unemployable felon, so be it. He made that choice. It's not the responsibility of academia to protect criminals from themselves.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:18 am to Patton
Yeah, and those have never been wrong.
He was ready to visit, get offered in fall, but our compliance office would not allow either to happen. Most experts felt he was ready to commit to LSU once the offer was in hand. It never appeared. I can bring up old articles and posts from around that time if you like. He didn't visit, nor was he offered officially with a one-on-one with Miles. The visit was set, but he wasn't allowed to go through with it.
He was ready to visit, get offered in fall, but our compliance office would not allow either to happen. Most experts felt he was ready to commit to LSU once the offer was in hand. It never appeared. I can bring up old articles and posts from around that time if you like. He didn't visit, nor was he offered officially with a one-on-one with Miles. The visit was set, but he wasn't allowed to go through with it.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 8:20 am
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:19 am to BeeFense5
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Recruited by two coaches that aren't here anymore. Glad we dodged that bullet
I'm going to have to sit Chief down and have a talk about this.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:20 am to THDAY
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When has a college football coach ever recruited and offered a scholarship to someone who they think can't play and help them win?
Stop injecting common logic into these threads!...you're ruining them.Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:22 am to BeeFense5
Alabama made a mistake bringing in Taylor. Anyone who wants to make that point can swing away, because we did.
If you want to pretend that this proves that Alabama is a different animal from your program, and that our players are thugs and criminals while yours are scholar athletes, then forgive me if I laugh.
Carry on, Gents.
If you want to pretend that this proves that Alabama is a different animal from your program, and that our players are thugs and criminals while yours are scholar athletes, then forgive me if I laugh.
Carry on, Gents.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:23 am to coachcrisp
Alabama fans need not worry about this. The SEC Compliance Office is on it and will soon announce sanctions
on LSU.
on LSU.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:24 am to Jango Fett
I'm surprise they didn't name schools that also recruited him like LSU being that it was ESPN, can't wait for Finebaum's spin on it
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:25 am to Crowknowsbest
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I get what you're saying, but universities aren't rehab programs. Attending them is a privilege that you have to earn.
If you're concerned about the well-being of a felon, put him/her in a treatment facility. That applies to all students who cause problems like this. Guys like Taylor have no business being college students.
^^^ Truth ^^^
I never seem to understand how college football fans fail to grasp this. Why do other college football programs feel as though another football team is a rehab program that the athlete is entitled to after losing that chance at his previous university? It shouldn't take that drastic a measure to learn a lesson in the first place. Playing college sports is a major privilege that isn't afforded to just anyone and should be treated as such.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:27 am to Crimson Legend
I don't think anyone is saying that. All programs have those black sheep that could tarnish the product. The fact any scholar athlete could perform such acts at any given time doesn't negate the fact Alabama failed to do their homework, wanted to win at all costs, and endangered lives in the process. LSU on the other hand said no and stuck to it.
Like I said, maybe Judy Penisname could learn a thing or two.
Like I said, maybe Judy Penisname could learn a thing or two.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:28 am to Crowknowsbest
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My main point was that keeping him at a university should not be an option. If he goes back to the street an unemployable felon, so be it. He made that choice. It's not the responsibility of academia to protect criminals from themselves
I agree that it's not the responsiblity of academia to protect him (or anyone else) from himself. I will point out two things:
1) To my knowledge having a pending case (felony included) won't keep you or me or anyone else from enrolling in, and being accepted to, a university. Not a public university. Duke or Princeton or MIT maybe.
2) It's not the university's, the coach's, nor anyone else's, responsibility to warn a woman not to date a guy. I'm betting that the woman he assaulted knew about his past.
I don't have the data at hand (and I'm not going to waste my morning retrieving them), but I'm thinkng that most of these "second chance" college football players do alright. This one didn't. And Domestic Violence is one of the media's darling issues of the day.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 8:35 am
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:30 am to JStanDawgFan
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Guys like Taylor have no business being college students.
The problem is, criminals like Taylor are just the extreme example. There are TONS of athletes participating in college football and basketball who have no business being college students.
Since none of us want college athletics to be truly amateur like the Ivy League, we look the other way. But over time, it evolves. The money corrupts it ALL over time, and now we're talking about paying players and entire sports networks for a conference of schools.
I have no answer for this. All I can say is that I agree with everyone that Taylor has no business in college, but I defy anyone to come up with a clear and consistent and enforceable line of who should be able to participate.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:31 am to memphisplaya
So glad AU took a hard stance regarding domestic violence. I am proud we put the safety of people over winning football games played by kids.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:31 am to roadGator
Finebaum is gonna kick the Authors butt for saying that about Bama
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:32 am to auburnphan23
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Bringing up other schools just seems like a deflection to take the heat of bama.
Bama deserves some criticism here. Just not from a team that also offered him a scholarship knowing his issues.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:34 am to BeeFense5
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Recruited by two coaches that aren't here anymore. Glad we dodged that bullet
If yall recruited him, Miles signed off on it. We both know it. Did he leave?
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:36 am to the808bass
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Bama deserves some criticism here.
We definitely do. But the author is acting like this is some big revelation that Saban brought a kid with issues into the program with the hope he could help us win football games. No shite, Sherlock. I see the Pulitzer in this guy's future.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 8:36 am
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:36 am to the808bass
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Bama deserves some criticism here.
Absolutely true.
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Just not from a team that also offered him a scholarship knowing his issues.
Good point. It won't slow them down, but still a good point.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:37 am to BeeFense5
Lol... people just keep trying.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:37 am to harmonics
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Saw this article earlier and knew one of you dipshits would post it.
Please explain this sentiment. Had you rather this NOT be discussed? I bet you relish any discussion about other programs' problems. This isn't the spineless Alabama media where nothing bad about bammer is allowed to be brought up.
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