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Do you feel bad when someone dies because they're being stupid?

Posted on 3/29/15 at 7:32 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 7:32 pm
Nope. Darwin doing work. One less person I have to compete with for resources.

I'm all for educating someone. But it's eventually going to come down to their choice to be stupid. Be that drinking and driving, roller skating in traffic, driving without a seatbelt, etc. I can't feel pity for stupid people.
Posted by derSturm37
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 7:41 pm to
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Nope. Darwin doing work. One less person I have to compete with for resources.

By this rationale you should celebrate when an intelligent person dies. You ought to be winning your competition against stupid people.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 7:44 pm to
I'm always sad when I see someone loses their life because that's still someone's child, sibling, friend, etc. Stupid or not that has a distinct impact on the people around them.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 7:46 pm to
intelligent people make stupid decisions too and I'm still not gonna feel bad

I'm all for giving someone the freedom to make choices. when those choices are stupid ones, I don't feel bad for them
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 7:51 pm to
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has a distinct impact on the people around them.

sure I can understand feeling bad for those around the person being stupid

but perhaps the parents should've done a better job raising the person making the stupid decisions. there are certainly other aspects to take into account before feeling real bad for everyone around the person being stupid.
Posted by derSturm37
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 7:52 pm to
Well, at least 150,000 people will die today, so...
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 7:54 pm to
cool. your point?
Posted by derSturm37
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 7:55 pm to
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cool. your point?

No point in the usual sense. Just that if you like people dying you'll always have plenty to be happy about.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 7:57 pm to
where did I say I was happy when someone dies?

not feeling bad =/= being happy
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 7:58 pm to
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but perhaps the parents should've done a better job raising the person making the stupid decisions. there are certainly other aspects to take into account before feeling real bad for everyone around the person being stupid.


Well obviously there's some cases where there's more empathy than others.

I feel bad for the teenagers who were recently killed by a train here when they didn't see the flashing rail lights (no gates) and got hit. I don't think that's a parent rearing issue as must as it was a stupid oversight that got the driver and his passengers killed.

Now the guy that has robbed multiple homes and then got shot in the process of robbing one? That's a bit different. Still shitty.
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 7:59 pm
Posted by derSturm37
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 8:01 pm to
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where did I say I was happy when someone dies?

not feeling bad =/= being happy

Granted.

Well, then, since you're ambivalent toward stupid people dying, and since more than 150,000 people die every day, and since many if not most of these were stupid, then you'll always have plenty about which to not feel anything.

I already told you that I wasn't making a point.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 8:02 pm to
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Well obviously there's some cases where there's more empathy than others.

right
quote:

I feel bad for the teenagers who were recently killed by a train here when they didn't see the flashing rail lights (no gates) and got hit. I don't think that's a parent rearing issue as must as it was a stupid oversight that got the driver and his passengers killed.

that example doesn't fall under the category of people being stupid
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Now the guy that has robbed multiple homes and then got shot in the process of robbing one? That's a bit different. Still shitty.

this sounds like it's someone being stupid
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 8:04 pm to
You forgot owning guns. Much more dangerous than shite you listed.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 8:06 pm to
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you'll always have plenty about which to not feel anything.

not feeling bad is not ambivalent
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then you'll always have plenty about which to not feel anything.

not feeling bad is not feeling nothing
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 8:08 pm to
as an argument to my OP I would say it depends on a persons definition of stupid
Posted by Stir of Echoes
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 8:10 pm to
I don't feel bad for anyone when they die. Only because I figure they are at a place better than this one.

I feel bad for the loved ones that have an empty place in their heart. That's the worst part of death.

I went to a funeral for a friends brother that drove to an In n Out parking lot in Burbank, ordered a burger, ate the burger, and then ate a sawed off shotgun.

It was a Thai funeral, my first. Watching his wife push the button to turn on the furnace, waiting for the smoke to come out of the chimney, and then watching her tell her son to say goodbye to his dad was brutal.

My fear of death is only that I fear leaving my loved ones in a state of shock. I hope I live long and prosper, and my death is expected.

So yeah, I do feel bad when someone dies like an idiot, but only because I know the family will be in shock about it, and that sucks.

Posted by blzr
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 8:13 pm to
I would feel bad if someone lost someone close to them because they forgot to put on a seatbelt one time. Damn dude.
Posted by derSturm37
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 8:13 pm to
Best post in this thread. And there won't be a better one. I'm out.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 8:16 pm to
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So yeah, I do feel bad when someone dies like an idiot, but only because I know the family will be in shock about it, and that sucks.

Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 8:20 pm to
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I would feel bad if someone lost someone close to them because they forgot to put on a seatbelt one time.

I get what you're saying. but there's no way to know if they forgot that one time or they just didn't put on a seat belt when no one was around.

and feeling bad for someone close to them isn't the same as feeling bad for the person being stupid
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