re: Jonathan Taylor arrested for...... domestic violence

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Sure, but the victim was a female with marks on her neck and a hole punched in the closet.

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Yeah this definitely is a miserably failed second chance.

It's dumbasses like him that empower people to hate the idea of second opportunities; especially for minority youngsters.

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found this hilarious. I don't think they even noticed you stopped your "financial support"

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In the grand scheme, my financial support doesn't mean anything to them but it does to me. It has been noticed, evidenced by contact from the university.

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I can't believe this dude is holding anger about a kid who made a mistake and is actually getting his stuff together and doing right.

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Anger? not even close.

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Pettway is an example of second chances working; how ironic you detest that.

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results oriented


I'm not condemning Bama fans for anything, I have no objection to them supporting their university. I make my own choices. Everyone has to draw a line somewhere, obviously it is different for everyone.

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You guys don't really give a shite about them developing as men anyways so you probably don't care either way.

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There is something inherently sinister about a man who puts his hands around a woman's neck when she is completely helpless. Tell me what kind of fight a girl who is probably around 130 lbs has against a 6'4 340 lb man. Hint: she doesn't. She is completely helpless, and he took advantage of that.

He never had to face the consequences of his actions. He was kicked out of UGA in July, but already had suitors in August. All he learned through the first ordeal is that you can be given numerous chances if you are talented enough on the football field.

He should have had to walk-on at some directional school and prove that he can stay out of trouble. His walk-on spot alone would have been a second chance, as he isn't entitled to anything. As it is, we welcomed him with open arms and without thoroughly vetting him and now we are facing the consequences of that irresponsible decision.

Last question, and this is directed at both ABDIW and YStar:

If the woman who was abused by JT in July were your daughter/sister, would you still be in here fighting for his second chance? If a man put his hands around your daughter's neck, what would you want to happen to him?

It's so easy to give second chances when you distance yourself from the victim.

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There is something inherently sinister about a man who puts his hands around a woman's neck when she is completely helpless. Tell me what kind of fight a girl who is probably around 130 lbs has against a 6'4 340 lb man. Hint: she doesn't. She is completely helpless, and he took advantage of that.

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I agree. BTW, size has nothing to do with it. Regardless of size.

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He never had to face the consequences of his actions.

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I disagree although only slightly. He was shamed, banned and new he was out the door.

The problem is we were too quick to give him a chance. I agree that he needed to be completely humbled and he wasn't.

It is obvious he didn't get the message. Now look at him. I'm sure his family is mystified.

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If the woman who was abused by JT in July were your daughter/sister, would you still be in here fighting for his second chance? If a man put his hands around your daughter's neck, what would you want to happen to him?

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Again, I truly believe in showing mercy to others. I'm not just saying that. If the young man new he made a mistake, was completely apologetic and was making strides to make changes and better himself as a person.... why should I hold him?

I'm sorry but if he didn't kill/rape any of my kin, I'm going to try my best to be forgiving and open-minded.

- I understand that poor control is prevalent among youngsters; especially those that come from single parent homes.

- I also understand although there are some Ray Rice's out there, many of these "disputes" are not one-sided affairs (doesn't excuse the man's reaction, he should always try to maintain control; however doesn't give the women the right to go/act violent/crazy)


In the end my hope is that young man gets himself together and becomes an asset to society not a problem. I would also speak to my kin and try to help them see how they could avoid situations like these. I will repeat this isn't just a "man's fault" issue.

These are my true beliefs. I am not spinning anything. Now if it is murder/rape/maiming, I'm sorry but I just can't look past that as a "loss of control". That is just an outright act of wickedness.

True irony is, I bet some of you don't believe a man can suffer domestic violence. I bet domestic violence looks like Ray Rice to many of you.

It isn't all Ray Rice, there are different shades.

Reminds me of the video of Jay-Z getting kick, slapped and punched in an elevator by Solange (Beyonce, his wife's younger sister). Jay-Z didn't say a word, he only blocked what physical attacks he could; never retorting one hit.

What was the reaction?

People laughed at Jay-Z.
People mocked Jay-Z.
People made Jay-Z a meme for weakness, ineptitude and incompetence.

Where were the cries of him suffering domestic violence? That was exactly what occurred on that elevator.


Anyways, my point is not to defend domestic violence on women; that is absolutely wrong. My point is to point out domestic violence is always Ray Rice which the media has now used as the poster boy for every situation.

not sure why we are turning on our own for stating their opinions.

Taylor has been dismissed.