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re: How Muslims Think

Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:31 pm to
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Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:32 pm to
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Most Muslims are not radical. Fact.


That depends entirely on what one means by "most". If it is a simple majority, then you are correct. There are nearly 2 billion Muslims though, even 10% is a shite ton of dangerous people (and the real % is much higher than that).

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We create, fund, recruit, pay off, ect groups such as ISIS.


Alright

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And our economic and foreign policies (making nations trade oil in US dollars, allegiance to Israel ect) play a major role in their distain for us.


Muslims were killing people in the name of their religion long before America started pissing them off.
Posted by hipgnosis
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:34 pm to
What was remotely off base with that post?
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:34 pm to
Well, are you?
Posted by hipgnosis
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:35 pm to
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Muslims were killing people in the name of their religion long before America started pissing them off.


And so were Christians. And Jews.

Funny, all three religions worship the same entity.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:36 pm to
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Most Muslims are not radical. Fact.



I guess 51% aren't, and while you may be comfortable with that, I'm not.

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We create, fund, recruit, pay off, ect groups such as ISIS.

And our economic and foreign policies (making nations trade oil in US dollars, allegiance to Israel ect) play a major role in their distain for us.


You really do not understand Islam. Most Muslims are really ignorant when it comes to the oil and Israel situation. They don't really have the forms of media we do in the Western World. You think they want things that sane people do. Money, independence, power, love, none of these matter to radical Muslims. ISIS's goal isn't to take over the Middle East, their goal to force every last man, woman, and child at knifepoint to become Muslim, destroy any possible freedom we have, purge all sin from the world, and kill everyone who stands in their way of achieving this. Tunisia, the so-called most progressive Arab nation, has exported more troops to ISIS than any other country. They are fans of what ISIS is doing by destroying the borders of the Middle East and murdering people violently. It's hundreds of millions of them, and I don't want to wait until it's 51% of Muslims that believe these things (and I think they're already beyond). I want to nip this in the butt now.

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*More too it, but just a few tidbits to add to your ridiculously flawed worldview.



Take off your rose tinted glasses and take a big old wiff of the shite that is right under your nose.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:38 pm to
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And so were Christians. And Jews.



And how people are still alive today? None! How is something that happened in the in the 12th century or the 10th century BC of any importance to what Muslims are doing today? It's such a stupid and irrelevant point.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:40 pm to
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This thread is getting shaft all worked up.




Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:41 pm to
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And so were Christians. And Jews.


Neither theology contains the inherent violence towards nonbelievers commanded of Muslims in the Quran. Islam has built into it a theology that predisposes believers to a radical view of violent religious expansion. Moreover, both Christianity and Judaism have evolved in the light of western social advancement. Islam has not had any such enlightenment.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:48 pm to
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Nope those are facts.


They're mostly propagandist drivel.

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What is often described as a civil war between Arabs and Jews was nothing more than an ethnic cleansing where small militias tried to protect their villages from an overwhelming Army.


A prime example of the drivel that conveniently ignores the fact that these "small militias" relentlessly attacked Jewish towns and were beginning a war of annihilation after the Jewish state was created. It implies that Jewish aggression happened in a vacuum, happily overlooking the murder of more than a thousand Jewish civilians in the months prior to the Jews killing those five people in al Bassa.

The Palestinians are murderers and terrorists, and have always been.

This is the true face of Palestine...

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We are not afraid of Martyrdom. Not long ago, you cried out loud: 'Death for Allah is our most exalted wish!' (Muslim Brotherhood slogan) You received the death you wanted. We have no problem with death. We are not like the children of Israel: 'And you will surely find them the most greedy of people for life.' (Quran) Whereas we yearn for death and Martyrdom... Every mother - especially the mothers in Palestine, but every mother in the [Islamic] Nation, not just Palestine - must nurse her children on hatred of the sons of Zion. We hate them and they are our enemies. We will plant this in their [our children’s] souls, so that a new generation will grow among us, which will erase them from the face of the earth."
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:51 pm to
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Neither theology contains the inherent violence towards nonbelievers commanded of Muslims in the Quran


You're mistaken.

Might want to freshen up on your boy Moses, for starters.

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Christianity and Judaism have evolved in the light of western social advancement


Palestine would agree. Lol.

The modern terrorist aspect of the Muslim faith exists because of us. You're free to be in denial about that. Your choice.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:52 pm to
Why do people (not talking to you Scrooster, you are just the OP) enjoy blindly arguing the same subjects for years on end hoping to win the message board battle. It is almost like you believe having the same "discussion" with the same people will solve some sort of problem.

What is the motivation? Is it the drive to display your intelligence and maybe even score a point by proving that another poster made an incorrect statement?

- follow up question, which school or state generate the most prolific fake debate warriors?
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 5:53 pm
Posted by hipgnosis
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:53 pm to
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Evolved Simian


You might be interested in the Christian Holocaust, carried out by Jews.
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:56 pm to
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What is the motivation?


It's fun.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 5:58 pm to
You just blew my mind. I find it tiring. Sex and lulz are fun topics. I just wish the board had less social justice topics and more lulz topics.

Oh well, at least it's the weekend so I can go to hogs 4 the cause
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 5:59 pm
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 6:03 pm to
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And how people are still alive today? None! How is something that happened in the in the 12th century or the 10th century BC of any importance to what Muslims are doing today? It's such a stupid and irrelevant point.



Your grasp of history is unfortunate.

You can start with the 50-80 million Christians killed by Jews in Russia.
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 6:03 pm to
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You just blew my mind. I find it tiring.


We all enjoy different things.

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at least it's the weekend so I can go to hogs 4 the cause


Have fun and eat well. There was some quality BBQ out there last year. With the weather so nice tonight, it's going to be a shite show trying to get in and out of City Park.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 6:05 pm to
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Palestine would agree. Lol.




If they existed
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 6:07 pm to
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You just blew my mind. I find it tiring. Sex and lulz are fun topics. I just wish the board had less social justice topics and more lulz topics.

Oh well, at least it's the weekend so I can go to hogs 4 the cause


A wise guy once said you learn through teaching.

I do a lot of this for myself.

Occasionally things happen, such as Genro breaking down and giving his real thoughts -- those are nice moments.

I believe communicating these things is important, even if it only touches a small amount of people.

I grow my own understanding of things, I learn what the average person thinks about things ect. I find value in it.

Also, not all of us are degenerates like yourself. I love the sex and have a thousand times more of it than you, but I have other interests as well.

An intellectual mind is interested in more than sex, you might not understand how that's possible. How was the bus stop action today?
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 6:09 pm
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15285 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 6:07 pm to
Another idiot who doesnt know how Israel became a state. Im not going to waste my time arguing with Muslim haters and genocide deniers but for those who want to learn more about the truth...

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In 1914, Enver Pasha's alliance with Germany led the Ottoman Empire into the fatal step of joining Germany and Austria-Hungary in World War I, against Britain and France. The British saw the Ottomans as the weak link in the enemy alliance, and concentrated on knocking them out of the war. When a direct assault failed at Gallipoli in 1915, they turned to fomenting revolution in the Ottoman domains, exploiting the awakening force of Arab, Armenian, and Assyrian nationalism against the Ottomans.
The Arabs had lived more or less happily under Ottoman rule for 400 years. The British found an ally in Sharif Hussein, the hereditary ruler of Mecca (and believed by Muslims to be a descendant of the family of Muhammad), who led an Arab Revolt against Ottoman rule, having received a promise of Arab independence in exchange.



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When the Ottoman Empire was defeated by an Arab uprising and British Empire forces after the Sinai and Palestine Campaign in 1918, the Arab population was rewarded with British betrayal. British and French governments concluded a secret treaty (the Sykes–Picot Agreement) to partition the Middle East between them and, additionally, the British promised via the Balfour Declaration the international Zionist movement their support in creating a Jewish homeland in Palestine.


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the Arabs proclaimed an independent state in Damascus, but were too weak, militarily and economically, to resist the European powers for long, and Britain and France soon established control and re-arranged the Middle East to suit themselves.


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Syria became a French protectorate thinly disguised as a League of Nations mandate. The Christian coastal areas were split off to become Lebanon, another French protectorate. Iraq and Palestine became British mandated territories. Iraq became the "Kingdom of Iraq" and one of Sharif Hussein's sons, Faisal, was installed as the King of Iraq. Iraq incorporated large populations of Kurds, Assyrians and Turkmens, many of whom had been promised independent states of their own.


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Palestine became the "British Mandate of Palestine" and was split in half. The eastern half of Palestine became the "Emirate of Transjordan" to provide a throne for another of Husayn's sons, Abdullah. The western half of Palestine was placed under direct British administration. The Jewish population of Palestine which numbered less than 8 percent in 1918 was given free rein to immigrate, buy land from absentee landlords, set up a shadow government in waiting and establish the nucleus of a state under the protection of the British Army which suppressed a Palestinian revolt in 1936.[15] Most of the Arabian peninsula fell to another British ally, Ibn Saud. Saud created the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in 1932.


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The departure of the European powers from direct control of the region, the establishment of Israel, and the increasing importance of the oil industry, marked the creation of the modern Middle East. These developments led to a growing presence of the United States in Middle East affairs. The U.S. was the ultimate guarantor of the stability of the region, and from the 1950s the dominant force in the oil industry.

Soviet Union, seeking to open a new arena of the Cold War in the Middle East, allied itself with Arab socialist rulers such as Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt and Saddam Hussein of Iraq.
These regimes gained popular support through their promises to destroy the state of Israel, defeat the U.S. and other "western imperialists," and to bring prosperity to the Arab masses.


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This represents a turning point when "fundamental and militant Islam began to fill the political vacuum created". In response to this challenge to its interests in the region, the U.S. felt obliged to defend its remaining allies, the conservative monarchies of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iran and the Persian Gulf emirates, whose methods of rule were almost as unattractive to western eyes as those of the anti-western regimes.


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n 1961, Kuwait gained independence from Britain and Iraq claimed sovereignty over Kuwait. A period of considerable instability followed.


Crash Course: a history of islam and politics, especially as a response to western imperialist movements.


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