re: We all need to stand up to the IHL

To update on the OP. This has stirred up a bunch of mess for the IHL and there is legislation in the works right now that will basically disband it. Congratulations IHL ****s, you just screwed yourself out of a job.

There will still be state oversight but the colleges will be able to do what they want basically.

Are we nominating Allyn to BOT?

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Allyn for BOT!

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I would get bumped on some morals clause. I don't know what morals clauses they have, but I have probably wouldn't pass.

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And BTW - not that it matters, but doesn't Allyn live in California? Be a tough monthly commute to serve on a local BOT.

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This.

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We do you support the IHL so much?

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I assume you meant "why". I have not said anything in support of IHL. I support process and the willy nilly approach that Tollison and Mayo (both from Oxford) are taking in dismantling IHL over an emotional thing as the firing of your Chancellor is irresponsible. I am a cause and effect kind of thinker. If you choose to do this, then you try to anticipate all the possible scenarios and effects of the decision. Impossible to do in just one week with a hastily written piece of legislation.

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OM's Chancellor got fired for circumventing what comes to a 2 year process with getting approval from the IHL

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You have no clue what you are talking about. First, the IHL process takes probably 2 months. You have a deadline to submit a month or so prior to the meeting for the following month to get an item on the agenda. It would have taken UMC much more time just to do the RFP, CON and all the other hoops that they must jump through just to get it to the IHL approval stage. The thing about the gamma knife (if you will go back and read the article), IHL cited UMMC as being inefficient because it has taken so long to get it installed because of its weight and they needed to install it at the Mall instead of the hospital proper.

I don't know what you are talking about with the stadium and the rambling about athletic programs and stuff.

In my completely uneducated opinion, I don't think the IHL needs to be completely dismantled. The financial side of what they do is very valuable, especially for our financial constraints in Mississippi. But, I do think each school having its own BoT is needed for decisions such as who is the school's chancellor. I just find it odd that something that affects the school in every facet of what it does is left almost entirely out its hands.

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Students and alumni seem to have the misconception that the school belongs to them.

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This comes from the fact that we have paid a lot of money in tuition to the institution, along with all the alumni that are Mississippi residents paying taxes to fund the university as well, and the 61% of students coming from families within Mississippi that are residents and pay taxes in Mississippi. These groups you're talking about are not independent from one another. But I do see your point, as it is tax dollars from both alumni and non-alumni funding the university, and it is a good one.

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But, the taxpayers' representatives thought a change should be made. As I recall, when the guy down at the Southern Miss (Thames maybe ????) got a no confidence vote from the faculty and faculty senate, the board listened and a change was made.

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I don't understand how this is relevant as it didn't happen here. After the firing, our faculty and staff from all branches of UM voiced their support for Dan Jones, and all comments from people who have interacted with him on a professional level have been largely positive (or at least what's being reported in the Clarion Ledger, which I don't know if I can trust seeing as this controversy is really improving their readership).

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I would think that Dan's successor, if the firing stands, will be chosen by a search committee made of UM people and recommendation will be made to the Board and will more than likely be affirmed. So again, you will have a say in who leads "your" university.

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And I see what you're saying, as this is essentially what a BoT would do MINUS the decision to fire him, which is really what is at issue. The school did not really have a say in keeping a man that has done a good job at what he does and has excelled in furthering its image.

ETA: I like being on tGrindRant, so if y'all would like this to be the last post about OM on this thread, I will leave without issue and discuss it on our own board. But it is nice to see the opinions from another school in MS on this.

And now apparently the Board and Dan Jones are in negotiations to renew his contract, so go figure.

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The public universities of our state belong to the people; the taxpayers.

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While this statement is true, and I don't disagree with various points you have made along the way, this statement is troubling to me.

What percentage of Mississippi Residents pay taxes? What percentage of that percentage do you think attended one of the in-state schools? There are a shite ton of people, especially in the great state of Mississippi that pay a big fat fricking 0 taxes.

You see where I am going with this. Students and alumni make a large, probably even majority, of the taxpayers in this state. So yes, it does belong to them. I get that it's a public university, and these schools wouldn't be where they are today without state funding, but my Alma Mater belongs a lot more to me than some idiot down the street that's been a frick up all of his life and gets to vote on the elected representatives in Mississippi even if he doesn't pay his taxes.