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re: University of Mississippi not renewing Dan Jones' contract

Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:08 pm to
Posted by miss dixie
Oxford, heaven this side of heaven
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:08 pm to
He created problems that did not exist. He ignored many voices of folks who happen to love Ole Miss as much ( or more) as he says he does.
He, like a few before him, did not allow the decisions to be a choice by those who support the university....like a FAIR vote.
The neutering of the school that was once called Ole Miss will continue until the majority speaks and is heard. Trampling the traditions in the name of progress is baloney!

By all means insist that the changes make us a better people thus institution. That is also baloney. Only God can change the hearts of men and thus their actions. You cannot legislate morality.

If that is the way of politics...so be it. This is a democracy not a dictatorship.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:13 pm to
So, this has pissed off our largest donor. Awesome.


fricking arse backwards MS politics
Posted by Sports_Guy007
MS
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:19 pm to
All traditions aren't good traditions.....Van Jefferson's Dad didn't want him to come because of preconceived notions about Mississippi. That perception has hindered us in the past. I don't think Hugh would have had the recruiting success that he has had if some changes didn't occur. Over 90% of the football team is African American. If you want to recruit the top athletes, then you have to have the right appearance. Singing a song that was song by "blackface" performers won't help that cause. Traditions be damned. I will take recruits and a winning program over the relics of tradition any day. You can condemn his approach, but you cant discredit his goal. Just my opinion, though.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:25 pm to
Who?
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:29 pm to
Some guy named Barksdale.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:34 pm to
Oh him
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:36 pm to
I just saw his quotes in the CL and the $30m donation thing.
Posted by RebMed
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:40 pm to
I'll admit that he did a pretty good job of keeping it together when controversy flared up around campus, but as far as him personally, I have nothing for him. In my two times of meeting him, he was a pompous arse.
Posted by RebMed
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:41 pm to
Glad to see I'm not the only one that he didn't impress
Posted by BalladofBradSowell
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

The neutering of the school that was once called Ole Miss
I find it ironic that it's only the really conservative fans that want to believe we're no longer called Ole Miss.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:02 pm to
The honors college is named after his deceased wife. He's big time.
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 8:03 pm
Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:36 pm to
It's not like he is gonna quit donating money. He will get over it the minute we find a new chancellor, if he hasn't already.

I don't really know what to think of this decision. Was Jones my favorite on some issues? No, but I thought in general he was pretty solid, and was getting better as time went on. I wish him the best
Posted by SwayzeCrazy
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:36 pm to
Let Barksdale have a little say so in the chanceller decision. Make him feel special. He won't stop donating.

Posted by GatorReb
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

I find it ironic that it's only the really conservative fans that want to believe we're no longer called Ole Miss.


I dont view it as we are No Longer called Ole Miss....But my memory is foggy. What was that whole issue that came out what like a year ago? With trying to leave the name OM a little bit and go to Mississippi more? Then after catching a ton of shite turn around and say "Well thats not what we meant."

again i dont remember the exact situation but didnt it involve seperating ourselves from the Ole Miss name?
Posted by SwayzeCrazy
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 9:09 pm to
So. Who all is being talked about for his replacement? Ben made a joke on Twitter about Haley Barbour.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 9:39 pm to
Ole Miss for athletics.

The University of Mississippi for academics.

I think that was it.
Posted by miss dixie
Oxford, heaven this side of heaven
Member since Dec 2014
376 posts
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:03 pm to
Seems Jones polled faculty and such to see if the name Ole Miss was offensive.
A majority said "no" and that they saw it as a term of respect for the alma mater.

Jones didn't like that outcome and plowed ahead.
Huge outcry made them retract some of the proposed renaming of the University. That is called putting your toe in the water to see the reaction. TOE got smushed!

It's not a conservative or liberal thing....it's a matter of changing something with no clear outcry to do so. Kind of like your doctor doing tests to see if you have gall bladder problems.
If he finds nothing wrong, does he remove the gall bladder anyway? I mean...he gets paid more for a gall bladder operation so what's the harm? You don't need that healthy gall bladder. You can live without it. Do you want a doctor to alter your body at what he thinks best ignoring the outcome of tests and opinions?

But Yes, I am a conservative if it means standing up for what you believe in and not caving in to the power and greed of the politics of the day. I am a conservative if you think tradition and heritage are important to everyone...not just a select few. Judge me by how I treat you not the fight song I love.

But sleep well, those of you who disagree, I am not a mega millionaire and have NO influence whatsoever on the progress of those who revise and disguise history in the name of apologizing and placating so you can convince better football recruits to come to Ole Miss. By better, you mean black athletes which is also racist. The opportunity is here for any race to play football at Ole MIss or anywhere else.

You think we are much improved in football because we laid down the flag, the colonel, and Dixie? Pray tell, if we STILL can't be top of the heap in football in the future.....what else will have to go? You see, you are trying to squash someone's heritage not to better mankind, but to win in football. Are you really that shallow?
You are so entitled to your opinion and ideas of what it will take to make Ole Miss acceptable to the world, but there are two sides to the controversy. You cannot legislate morality for people. You cannot erase the past or make amends for it. Neither should you be asked to do so.
What you can do is live your life so that the detractors look like fools for suggesting you change.
It is an emotional argument and likely never to be fully resolved. This country is based on the majority rules. If it were not so, We would not yet have a black President. A democracy represents ALL the sides.....not just the ones who have more money.

Put it to a vote. That is all anyone asks. You can bet your butt that won't happen because the agenda of the liberal/progressive bunch would suffer a major defeat.
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 11:15 pm
Posted by miss dixie
Oxford, heaven this side of heaven
Member since Dec 2014
376 posts
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:18 pm to
So we have to bow to the whims and wishes of the rich donors? Any indication that a choice by ALL contributors is the fair and reasonable thing to do.
You won't help Ole Miss unless they do it your way? Sounds kinda' childish to me.
Posted by Sports_Guy007
MS
Member since Feb 2014
751 posts
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:44 pm to
Sorry Miss Dixie but there are parts of Mississippi's heritage that no one should hold on to......instead we must march past it. History is simply history because not all parts of said history are moments of pride. Change is the necessity of adaptation manifested in the essence of survival.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 12:18 am to
Dickie Scruggs is our biggest donor.

We can not give up the name Ole Miss.

Do we also tear down the Lyceum? And all buildings that were up 150 years ago?
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