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re: Doesn't LSU owe A&M anyway?

Posted on 3/3/15 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 3:36 pm to
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Where's A&M btw????



That is a speculative list of value- aka made up numbers.

When you look at something that is a SOLID data point, like who sells more swag, A&M comes out on top:

LINK
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 3:37 pm to
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A&M comes out on top:


By 1 whole spot.



We so poor.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 3:39 pm to
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Based on what?



Just a gut feeling. Which is as much as anyone here can base it on. No one here has seen the contract, and few are lawyers.
Posted by GFaceKillah
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 3:40 pm to
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Honestly I think A&M/Chavis wins this case. And that isn't Aggie delusion talking, just the way the situation has set up.


Based on the fact that the two parties didn't just settle?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 3:41 pm to
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By 1 whole spot.



This is the Rant, aka a place where finishing second in the West instead of third is considered a bragging point.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 3:47 pm to
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And that isn't Aggie delusion talking


Yeah it is.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 3:48 pm to
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Based on the fact that the two parties didn't just settle?



If you really want to know why I feel confident a big part of it is motivation.

It is VERY obvious that on the LSU side things got personal. Much like a divorce where the wife wants sell her cheating husband down the river it is obvious that emotions are driving LSU's bus.

Meanwhile A&M is going by the books. If our lawyers said the contract was strong we would have paid. There is no reason to let this go to court for us unless we feel we have a strong case. The money simply isn't worth it either way (I bet we already used a chunk of that in legal fees). Heck even if there is only a small chance we would lose then there is no reason not to pay. $400k isn't that big of a buyout for the biggest A&M coaching hire since Jackie.

So the only reason why we would take this to court is because we feel strongly we would win. And the only reason the LSU AD won't accept the reality of his weaker position is because of emotion IMHO. In my experience when there are two parties in a business transaction and one is operating based on emotion then that is the party that gets fleeced.

That is also why I am Team Rita FYI. Well that and Aggie stick together.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 3:49 pm to
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Yeah it is.



Don't give me a bookmark Wade. I am much more confident we will win this case than we will win on the field next year.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 3:50 pm to
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"I said, 'Get out of another (game)' because this game means too much for us,'" Crow said. "We would sell the stadium out for LSU. Them and Texas were only ones we did that."



This quote is basically like getting punched in the balls to A&M fans.

LSU fans understand what Texas fans have been talking about for all of these years. A&M just replaced all of its inferiority complex with Texas with an inferiority complex with LSU.

Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 3:51 pm to
Bookmark it. Chavis violated his contract on New Years Eve.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 3:55 pm to
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Bookmark it. Chavis violated his contract on New Years Eve.


Maybe, but if the contract is too poorly written than it is not enforceable. I bookmarked, we will see in a year or whenever this concludes.

Actually the most likely situation is a settlement (when the LSU AD steps down from the emotional ledge and decides a little money is better than showing the entire state your contracts are weak). Which sucks, then we both lose for bragging purposes.
This post was edited on 3/3/15 at 3:56 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 4:13 pm to
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So the only reason why we would take this to court is because we feel strongly we would win.

I don't think A&M is taking anything to court. Chavis is taking A&M to court.

1. The contract Chavis had with LSU stated that he would owe $400k for early termination.

2. Chavis states that he gave 30-day notice on Jan 5, which would release him from his contract on Feb 3.

3. Chavis has been documented as clearly working for A&M between Jan 5 and Feb 3.

4. Chavis will have to pay the $400k to LSU.

5. Chavis will be reimbursed by A&M for the buyout fee.

6. LSU gets $400,000 of A&M's money for the buyout, while still retaining the $400,000 for backing out of the series in '95.

7. profit

8. lulz
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 4:26 pm to
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(when the LSU AD steps down from the emotional ledge and decides a little money is better than showing the entire state your contracts are weak)


Sure, because in aggyfan's brain, this is the only possible reason for settling.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 4:37 pm to
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Sure, because in aggyfan's brain, this is the only possible reason for settling.



Yeah, but you gotta love this exchange:
quote:

Honestly I think A&M/Chavis wins this case. And that isn't Aggie delusion talking, just the way the situation has set up.

quote:

Based on what?

quote:

Just a gut feeling.

Sooooo, it's not delusion, it's indigestion.



fricking aggies.

Posted by GFaceKillah
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 4:57 pm to
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Maybe, but if the contract is too poorly written than it is not enforceable. I bookmarked, we will see in a year or whenever this concludes.

Actually the most likely situation is a settlement (when the LSU AD steps down from the emotional ledge and decides a little money is better than showing the entire state your contracts are weak). Which sucks, then we both lose for bragging purposes.


This is ridiculous to assume. Everything you believe about this case is pure speculation based on how you 'feel'.
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15580 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 5:02 pm to
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Latarian
Doesn't LSU owe A&M anyway?


from when they backed out of their football series years ago? why doesn't LSU just pay Chavis and and call it even with A&M once and for all?







quote:
LSU cancelled the series with two games remaining after the 1995 game in College Station.

That move sparked some friction between the schools, which contributed to them not renewing the series. With the SEC going to a divisional format and eight conference games in 1992, then-LSU Athletic Director Joe Dean said he couldn't afford to give up one of three non-conference home games every year.

"You've almost got to have seven home games to pay the bills," Dean said. "That's all it was.


"It was peaceful, friendly. It wasn't ugly. I thought we'd wait a few years and reschedule them when we could manipulate the home-and-home series with the SEC."

Crow had a different point of view.

"I said, 'Get out of another (game)' because this game means too much for us,'" Crow said. "We would sell the stadium out for LSU. Them and Texas were only ones we did that."

LSU eventually refused to play the final two games and the schools settled the matter for $100,000. Attempts by LSU to renew the series have been rebuffed, insiders say, because of lingering hard feelings over breaking the contract.



Why didn't Texas A&M "GO TO COURT" like Chavis is now ??????????????????????????????????????





Posted by BasilBogomil
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 5:09 pm to
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And the only reason the LSU AD won't accept the reality of his weaker position is because of emotion IMHO.


Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 5:53 pm to
Last time I checked, TAMU lost their case in court. So no...

Posted by GFaceKillah
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 5:57 pm to
Why is this thread anchored?
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 6:10 pm to
Tell you what, I will cut the 400k down to 399K with a grand of my own, if an aggie thinks he has the balls to come and try to whip my arse for it.
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