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re: Kevin Steele is a downgrade
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:50 am to joeyb147
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:50 am to joeyb147
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Is this a reason to brag?
Since when is laughing at an Auburn loss 'bragging'?
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And just a FYI, Auburn's 6.90 yards per play on offense in that game against Clemson was the highest output of the season. Yes, higher than Utah State (6.74 ypp), higher than Florida Atlantic (5.08 ypp), higher than Ole Miss (6.37 ypp), & higher than Samford (6.01 ypp).
Well then I guess LSU's defense will be worse than giving up 566 total yards, including 298 rushing yards, like Chavis did last season to Auburn.
Doomed, LSU is just doomed.
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:51 am to harmonics
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He was Alabama's DC in 2007. Gave up 22 points per game. The worst since Saban has been at Alabama. Kirby Smart is giving up an average of 13 points per game over a span of 7 years. Steele is a decent recruiter though.
Steele is, without a doubt, a downgrade. However, comparing Steele's defense is 2007 to smarts entire body of work is ignorant in so many ways it's actually funny.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:52 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Doomed, LSU is just doomed.
you didn't hear?
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:04 pm to MightyYat
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I'm kind of envious of A&M fans. Y'all are one of the few fan bases that don't really melt.
We melt. It just is for different reasons than you would expect us to melt.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:11 pm to cardboardboxer
The "fire Sumlin" melt before the Chavis hire was so goddamn funny
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:13 pm to mattytiger123
quote:Yes, he is.
Kevin Steele is a downgrade
I'm just amazed that John Chavis went from being a top 3 defensive coordinator, according to LSU fans, to "expendable" in only a few short years. Texas A&M got a massive upgrade at the position and LSU, after hiring Kevin Steele, got a massive downgrade. Ed Orgeron was an awesome hire, but he's just a defensive line coach.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:17 pm to TTsTowel
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Texas A&M got a massive upgrade at the position and LSU, after hiring Kevin Steele, got a massive downgrade.
Do you think the DC is solely responsible for the defense, or that the staff is a factor? Because, as a whole, LSU's defensive staff >>>>>>>>> aTm's.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:18 pm to TTsTowel
The father of the top recruit in the class of 2017 claims Steele>Chavis. Enough for me 
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:22 pm to RB10
quote:Of course the staff is a factor, but who ultimately makes the calls on game day?
Do you think the DC is solely responsible for the defense, or that the staff is a factor? Because, as a whole, LSU's defensive staff >>>>>>>>> aTm's.
For some unknown reason, the LSU fans on this board went from complete meltdown mode (you know it, I know it, everyone knows it) after the Kevin Steele hire to being jubilant over an Ed Orgeron hire.
The Kevin Steele hire was bad...
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:24 pm to harmonics
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He was Alabama's DC in 2007. Gave up 22 points per game. The worst since Saban has been at Alabama. Kirby Smart is giving up an average of 13 points per game over a span of 7 years. Steele is a decent recruiter though.
2007 was Sabans first year or second year at bama right? While I don't think Steele is as good as Smart, I also don't think he is as bad as 22 points per game. I'd imagine if you compared bamas defensive roster in 2007 to the rosters smart had to work with the differences would be drastic. The truth is likely somewhere in the middle.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:25 pm to TTsTowel
Well of course,we needed something to offset
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:28 pm to FightinTiga
quote:No positional hire would off-set a hire like, say, Scot Loeffler...or even Kevin Steele.
Well of course,we needed something to offset
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:31 pm to cas4t
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The "fire Sumlin" melt before the Chavis hire was so goddamn funny
Good example. None of yall could figure out why we would melt over a recruit more than any single game.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:32 pm to TTsTowel
2007 - 22
2009 - 20.4
2010 - 18.8
2011 - 29.3
2012 - 24.8
These are Steele's years as a DC. Those last 2 years are concerning, but the 3 before that aren't terrible.
I don't like the hire much, but I'm going to wait and see what he can do with the talent LSU has on the roster before I say he's terrible.
2009 - 20.4
2010 - 18.8
2011 - 29.3
2012 - 24.8
These are Steele's years as a DC. Those last 2 years are concerning, but the 3 before that aren't terrible.
I don't like the hire much, but I'm going to wait and see what he can do with the talent LSU has on the roster before I say he's terrible.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:34 pm to gatordmb89
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Cameron already had a polished Mett, OBJ, Jarvis Landry, and Jeremy Hill.
No...no...no
Cam has admitted and took blame that it's taking longer than he'd like to these guys working his system.
As for Steele, maybe he's learned from prior experience and will be better for it. O is a huge coaching upgrade on the DLine, as well.
No doubt our talent level will be amazing with these guys on the recruiting trail too.
Everybody is hoping Steele sux and I can't blame them.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:34 pm to UpToPar
quote:Clemson (2009) 21.8 PPG
I also don't think he is as bad as 22 points per game.
Clemson (2010) 18.6 PPG
Clemson (2011) 29.5 PPG
Alabama (2007) 23.3 PPG
Those are Kevin Steele's years as a defensive coordinator, averaging out to his defenses giving up 23.3 PPG. During his time at Clemson, it appeared that his defenses did well until most of his players starting taking over as starters. That is what I expect to happen to LSU, although not as severely.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:36 pm to TTsTowel
LSU fans claim their defense is loaded at every position, yet ESPN recently rated their defensive line as the 8th best in the SEC. Maybe Godchaux or someone else can develop into stars, but I don't see any proven stars going into the season
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:37 pm to auburnphan23
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Maybe Godchaux or someone else can develop into stars, but I don't see any proven stars going into the season
Talent is there....coaching will be better
We shall see
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:38 pm to mattytiger123
It's a simple question. We all know he sucks compared to Chavis.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:41 pm to Diddles
Wish I knew who Ole Miss' DC was without looking it up. Wait..no I don't, because at the end of the day/season..YAOM.
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