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Concerning this LSU FAA/decomitt thing with the Womack kid. Is UGA open to

Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:57 am
Posted by Croot
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:57 am
any problems with Roquan if here were to go some where else. Granted, I'm not very informed on the FAA rules.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:13 am to
Theoretically yes
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:32 am to
Can you enlighten us a little, Crow? Correct me if I am wrong, but if a kid signs financials and all and then decides he doesn't want to be there anymore and leaves - the institution can get in trouble?
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:42 am to
According to the NCAA
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if a school signs a prospect to an agreement and takes advantage of the relaxed restrictions, it will be in violation, retroactively, of NCAA rules if the prospect does not enroll at the school.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:44 am to
It's not a problem unless they ignore the regular contact periods and rules. Essentially, LSU convinced the kid to sign for both schools so they could call/visit/etc unlimited.

I'm not sure how much contact we've had with Roquan outside the allowable rules anyhow.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:46 am to
UGA has already marketed Roquan Smith as part of the 2015 class, so they could be punished for that if he were to go somewhere else.

I don't think UGA's in much danger of that though
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:47 am to
Posted by wdhalgren
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:38 pm to
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UGA has already marketed Roquan Smith as part of the 2015 class, so they could be punished for that if he were to go somewhere else.


Are you sure about that? I believe it is a violation if they mention a recruit's name before signing day (or enrollment in the case of EE's), whether he's signed an FAA or not. If that rule still applies the same way after signing day, that would mean Georgia was in violation the moment they mentioned Roquan's name, whether he goes elsewhere or not. Seems unlikely they'd talk about Smith if the same rule applied now.
This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 12:41 pm
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 1:50 pm to
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“I am relieved to say that I am officially committed to the University of Georgia,” Smith wrote on Instagram. “Thank you so much to all my true supporters and my community. I will make you nothing short of proud.”

Georgia at 9:50 a.m. Friday posted on its football Twitter account: Welcome to the #UGAFamily Roquan Smith! #CommittedToTheG #Fam15”

Coach Mark Richt tweeted 17 minutes later: “Glad to have @RoquanSmith1 join the Bulldog Family!! GO DAWGS!! Sic Em”



LINK


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“Roquan is a guy that is a very athletic linebacker. He has a great combination of physical toughness but athleticism as well. He’s a guy that we think can not only play in the box, but cover people out the backfield as well. We’re excited about him as a Georgia Bulldog.”


LINK
Posted by wdhalgren
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 2:02 pm to
I know that UGA has formally acknowledged that Roquan has committed to UGA. My question is whether that is a rules violation if he goes elsewhere, or even if he eventually enrolls at UGA.
This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 2:09 pm to
So, now schools can't acknowledge who commits to them?
Posted by wdhalgren
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 2:15 pm to
The rule as I understand it, is that a school cannot even publicly say the name of a recruit before he either enrolls or signs a LOI. As far as I know that also applies to players who have signed FAA but not enrolled or signed a LOI. Or, maybe I'm wrong and signing an FAA changes the rules about coaches discussing recruits. I haven't seen any examples of that, but can't say for sure.

But..., since CMR has discussed Roquan in the media, I'm wondering if those rules are different if a player commits and signs an FAA after signing day has passed, even if he hasn't enrolled or signed an LOI.
This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 2:31 pm
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 2:31 pm to
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, since CMR has discussed Roquan in the media, I'm wondering if those rules are different if a player commits and signs an FAA after signing day has passed, even if he hasn't enrolled or signed an LOI. Or, maybe I'm wrong and signing an FAA changes the rules about coaches discussing recruits, but since players can sign multiple FAA's that would allow multiple teams to discuss those players with the media prior to signing.


That's the question. The rules certainly change once you sign an FAA. However, if he were to go and sign one at UCLA and then enroll there, the NCAA might be able to punish us, as they did with LSU.
Although, I'm not 100% clear on what LSU was telling the kid in that case. Maybe they persuaded him to sign it just so they could visit him more....I believe the NCAA would see that as taking advantage of the rule.....pure speculation
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 3:25 pm to
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Can you enlighten us a little, Crow? Correct me if I am wrong, but if a kid signs financials and all and then decides he doesn't want to be there anymore and leaves - the institution can get in trouble?



That is pretty much what happened with LSU. Granted there were a few signs around suggesting that the kid was not all in for LSU...but crap....why let a kid sign FAA if you are not going to contact him. LSU got a raw deal.

That said....Roquan has shown no signs that he is even considering anybody else AT THIS POINT. However, if the NCAA decided to interpret things another way....
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 6:24 pm to
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if the NCAA decided to interpret things another way..


So, if the joke of the so-called NCAA gets a hair up its arse it can go ahead and punish UGA just because it was mentioned? That is just fricking stupid.
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