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re: FAA rules aren't as stupid as Tiger fans are suggesting

Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:19 am to
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:19 am to
I've never once blamed Bama. In fact, I've said several times that blaming Bama for this is stupid.

My issue is that LSU is being sanctioned, basically, because this kid changed his mind, which is ridiculous. The FAA binds the university to the contract, but not the kid. That is also ridiculous.

The rule is absurd, and honestly, anyone who denies that needs to have their internet privileges taken away by their caretaker. How a university can "retroactively" break a rule because of a choice that was made, by another party, after the fact, is beyond me..
Posted by 14&Counting
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:24 am to
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Uhhhhh, I mean potential blame for how he handled it afterwards. If he comes out yesterday and is respectful to Les Miles, nobody would think he possibly was deceitful on purpose. But when you act like he did yesterday, it makes it look that he may have done this on purpose. Do you really not agree?


I didn't see what he tweeted or posted, but if was something disrespectful to Coach Miles and LSU then that was wrong.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:25 am to
So, why is the SEC office enforcing an NCAA rule that the NCAA isn't enforcing?
Posted by Nissanmaxima
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:26 am to
To OP, shut your whore Bama mouth.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:48 am to
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I don't really see this as Womack's responsibility either although he maybe could have handled it better. LSU got played because LSU was his fallback plan if Bama didn't offer him. At the point when he signed the aid papers with LSU, he didn't have commitable offer from Bama. So he he was lining up LSU as it appeared that is where he thought he was headed. Bama decided in fall they wanted him and he wanted to play for Bama first and foremost. He didn't sign the LOI with LSU and LSU jumped the gun here. Again, the recruiting game sucks, but this is on the LSU coaches not on the recruit or Bama.


This would all be fine and dandy if he hadn't stayed committed to LSU for over a month after he received the Bama offer. In fact, he stayed committed long enough for the LSU coaches to believe he was going to enroll early.

Now, that kind of shows your "Bama was his 1st choice" arguement to be false. Unless, of course, he was intentionally trying to frick LSU. I don't believe that's the case, however.


ETA: One last thing. You should ask yourself one question:

In the lifetime of the NCAA, has a university ever been sanctioned because a recruit elected to attend another school?

The answer is No. Why? Because it is probably the most absurd reason for a violation,ever.
This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 11:54 am
Posted by Big Block Stingray
Top down on open road
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:00 pm to
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Yep, and I would imagine it wouldn't be hard to convince them to sign it.


Umm.... No, not for a school the in which the player has little interest. That's the WORST part of recruiting for these kids, the phone constantly ringing.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:04 pm to
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FAA rules aren't as stupid as Tiger fans are suggesting
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These rules prevent schools from handing out FAA like candy in order to have unlimited contact with any recruit they choose.

Well that's really not a fair depiction, because no recruit would sign one unless they are committed to that school. Its not like lsu made it rain with FAA's.





Disagree. one the local radio just said that smiles and them knew it was a risk as every coach does and two didn't Hootie Jones sign financial aid papers to LSU and Bama?
Posted by geauxjoetiger
Lake Charles
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:11 pm to
Can I blame Bama for the stupidest football scheduling I have ever heard of in my entire life? The permanent opponent is an absolute joke. Tradition and history don't mean sh** in scheduling. A&M is in the conference now, wait a minute that isn't the tradition!!! A&M and Texas don't even play anymore!! It's time to throw out the old and get in touch with damn reality!! Get rid of the permanent opponents. I would love to see A&M play UGA more than once every 14 freaking years.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:13 pm to
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Can I blame Bama for the stupidest football scheduling I have ever heard of in my entire life? The permanent opponent is an absolute joke. Tradition and history don't mean sh** in scheduling. A&M is in the conference now, wait a minute that isn't the tradition!!! A&M and Texas don't even play anymore!! It's time to throw out the old and get in touch with damn reality!! Get rid of the permanent opponents. I would love to see A&M play UGA more than once every 14 freaking years.


What the hell does this have to do with LSU cheating?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:15 pm to
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This would all be fine and dandy if he hadn't stayed committed to LSU for over a month after he received the Bama offer. In fact, he stayed committed long enough for the LSU coaches to believe he was going to enroll early.

Now, that kind of shows your "Bama was his 1st choice" arguement to be false. Unless, of course, he was intentionally trying to frick LSU. I don't believe that's the case, however.


I think his actions certainly back up the idea that Bama was his first choice. Take a look at the timeline of events following his offer from Bama. Seems pretty clear to me.

At the very least, LSU should have been aware of him visiting other school and attending multiple Bama games.
This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26593 posts
Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:18 pm to
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Can you blame an 18 year old for lashing out a little bit after being bombarded with hate tweets?


You should have read his tweets and read what he retweeted. That fat f#@k knew what he was doing.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43785 posts
Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:21 pm to
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I think his actions certainly back up the idea that Bama was his first choice. Take a look at the timeline of events following his offer from Bama. Seems pretty clear to me


Ok then. So, he intentionally led LSU to believe that he was going to enroll early for a month, even though he never planned to do so?

You do realize that makes him sound worse, right?
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:22 pm to
Why don't you fill me in on what that fat frick was tweeting.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:22 pm to
I honestly have no problems with the kid changing his mind. It sucks we got burned by a bad rule, but it happens. What has rustled me the most is the way he handled it yesterday. I was a college athlete. If this would have happened to me my Dad would have had my arse on the phone first thing in the morning to apologize to the LSU staff, eventhough it wasnt my fault. He also would have had my arse make a statement saying I was sorry any damage came to a university for the change of my decision. Instead, this kid comes out and mocks the coaches and university. It is just sickening. Sports have jumped the shark. Fans have gotten too invested and they support shite like this
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32647 posts
Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:25 pm to
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Can I blame Bama for the stupidest football scheduling I have ever heard of in my entire life? The permanent opponent is an absolute joke. Tradition and history don't mean sh** in scheduling. A&M is in the conference now, wait a minute that isn't the tradition!!! A&M and Texas don't even play anymore!! It's time to throw out the old and get in touch with damn reality!! Get rid of the permanent opponents. I would love to see A&M play UGA more than once every 14 freaking years.




This has officially become my favorite thread so far in 2015.


AND we've been anchored. This is amazing.
This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:31 pm to
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Ok then. So, he intentionally led LSU to believe that he was going to enroll early for a month, even though he never planned to do so?

You do realize that makes him sound worse, right?


I'm sure he did intend to enroll early at LSU - prior to his receiving an offer from Alabama. I think the entire timeline backs that up...

From him receiving an offer to LSU, committing, signing FAA papers, then his recruitment to Alabama... All of it backs up the idea that he at one point planned on enrolling early and attending LSU, and then received an offer from Alabama that changed his mind.

I'm not sure what's so difficult to comprehend about any of that.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:32 pm to
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You should have read his tweets and read what he retweeted. That fat f#@k knew what he was doing.




He retweeted a bunch of threats from LSU fans. Doesn't look suspicious to me, just shows what kind of trash many of you are.
Posted by memphisplaya
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:33 pm to
He signed documents binding him to early enroll, and did not.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:34 pm to
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He signed documents binding him to early enroll, and did not.




Those documents are not binding to anyone but the school.
This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 12:35 pm
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85789 posts
Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:36 pm to
I meant the university. The minute he signed the documents. He had to enroll early or LSU would pay the price. Didn't matter where, but he signed documents only enrolling students sign
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