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re: FAA rules aren't as stupid as Tiger fans are suggesting

Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:31 am to
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:31 am to
Can you blame an 18 year old for lashing out a little bit after being bombarded with hate tweets?
Posted by Oizers
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:33 am to
I disagree. If a player is 100% solid then what is the point of a FAA. It seems like thousands of kids were able to easily enroll early prior to the FAA. Plus Womack was committed to LSU and LSU only handed out 5 FAAs so it is obvious their intention is to give them out to kids who are telling the school they are enrolling.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:33 am to
Nah bruh I wouldn't dream of blaming good Ole Bama of anything.This was clearly a case of entrapment,congrats on the catch.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:33 am to
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It really shouldn't be that hard to understand.


Womack's father said LSU elected not to use the extra contact allowed until late in the year. You know, around the time they would need to start scheduling his classes and setting up his housing arrangements. I wonder why they started that process?

Again, common sense goes a long way when looking at this situation.
Posted by AdamDeMamp
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:34 am to
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Not true because C.J. Hampton signed FAA's with Bama, UF and Ole Miss last year before the new rule was in place. They each got unlimited contact with him before he actually enrolled at Ole Miss. Schools should still use these for kids they really want that aren't committed. There is nothing wrong with getting a kid to sign one. Use it as a good faith gesture that you really are serious about the kid, but continue to follow the regular recruiting rules.


So you really believe that Alabama and Florida State didn't "over-contact" Hampton with those agreements in place since he ended up signing with Ole Miss? Please.

At this point, who cares. What's done is done. The true value of the rule is now understood outside of the people who have to follow it.
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:34 am to
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If this is true, then why self report it?

Because someone else would if we didn't.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:35 am to
I guess the question now is will LSU appeal and is it even worth it?
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:36 am to
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why self report it?



Why indeed
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:37 am to
Your disdain for Alabama is disconcerting. In the words of my good friend Elsa, Let It Go.


Fwiw, the post you were replying to had zero mention of Alabama.
This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 9:39 am
Posted by OldPete
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:39 am to
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C.J. Hampton signed 4 last year.

Looks like he might've been the driving force behind the rule change, which looks like it took effect this past April:

Last recruiting cycle, Meridian safety C.J. Hampton signed financial aid agreements with Alabama, Florida State and Ole Miss. The financial aid agreements allowed each school unlimited contact with Hampton, a four-star prospect, under a new rule passed by the NCAA last year. The NCAA announced Wednesday that it is adjusting the rules on financial aid agreements for mid-year enrollees. Under the new rules, a school can still have unlimited contact with any prospect that signs a financial aid agreement, but if that prospect doesn't enroll in that school, that school could be penalized for recruiting violations. In the Hampton scenario, Alabama and Florida State would both be in violation of the rules because he enrolled at Ole Miss. The NCAA noted in its release that "the change created an unintended scenario in which prospects (most often mid-year enrollees) signed multiple offers of financial aid and coaches were incentivized to recruit prospects to sign so they could recruit without restrictions."

LINK
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:40 am to
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I guess the question now is will LSU appeal and is it even worth it?


Probably not worth it, but we need to make a fuss anyway.

With Valentine last year and this now, the SEC is becoming abusive. If they're going to pursue and penalize minute infractions, we need to become litigious in return.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:41 am to
He's a Bama player
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:42 am to
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I guess the question now is will LSU appeal and is it even worth it?


If there's one thing you, as a LSU fan, should know by now, it's that Alleva is a spineless asshat. I seriously doubt he does a thing about this other than bend over and smile.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:42 am to
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These rules prevent schools from handing out FAA like candy in order to have unlimited contact with any recruit they choose.



Then make the the FAA binding to the player
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:43 am to
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Because someone else would if we didn't.


Who?

You think we would have asked for Womack's phone records and asked how many times LSU coaches had come by while he was committed to LSU with a FAA in place - and then turned LSU in for it?

Please.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:44 am to
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But don't blame Saban, Bama, the REC, or the SEC office for LSU's mistake.


It wasn't LSU's mistake. It was the recruits mistake.

"The rules were in place. LSU knew the rules. LSU knew Womack wasn't solid, and they chose to have that unlimited contact anyway."

The article I read said LSU did not use the unlimited contact but that's beside the point as that isnot what they were penalized for, LSU gets penalized if they never even talked to the assfrick again.
This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 9:46 am
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:44 am to
Ehh. You aren't going to convince me bama doesn't do the same thing.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:44 am to
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Who? You think we would have asked for Womack's phone records and asked how many times LSU coaches had come by while he was committed to LSU with a FAA in place - and then turned LSU in for it? Please.


Why wouldn't Bama do it? It's a rules violation, as of April 2014 at least.

ETA: It's statements like this that make it easy to see just how much of a homer you really are.
This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 9:45 am
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:44 am to
Which had nothing to do with my post.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:45 am to
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It wasn't LSU's mistake. It was the recruits mistake.


False.

LSU chose to have that "extra contact".

All of the things that needed to get taken care of in regards to housing, enrollment, etc... could have been taken care of within the normal allotted contact periods.
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