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re: LSU has recruiting violations? Say it ain't so...

Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:51 pm to
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22698 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:51 pm to
Yeah, it is stupid as heck.

I read it and decided to post to show the ignorance behind such a rule. Early signing period would help this stop, right?

Posted by TigerPackage
BR, LA
Member since Jun 2014
481 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:52 pm to
Any chance at all that this can be appealed?
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

I really don't know the full story regarding the Baylor situation anyway other than some brief reading yesterday

here's the full story - the kid made it up. He took money from boosters he didn't know and Baylor kicked him off the team for it. He issued an apology for lying about it today after the NCAA statement yesterday made him look like an idiot
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NCAA continues to be a joke when it comes to discipline

Much like the Baylor situation, this has nothing to do with the NCAA. This punishment was enforced by the SEC. Creating a straw man doesn't change the fact that LSU broke the rules. Play by the rules and there are no issues
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29258 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:54 pm to
this is insane. LSU got screwed by this kid badly when HE was the one who signed FAA papers and then changed his mind.

how can the SEC punish the school for this? makes no sense
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:54 pm to
Rawl Tawd yall
Posted by NFLU
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2014
5769 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:54 pm to
Who cares....LSU is about to land a top five class regardless.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94798 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:54 pm to
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Play by the rules and there are no issues
We did play by the rules. How is it our fault the fat frick did not honor is commitment. The rule she be written to where the school is penalized if they then pull the offer after the FAA is signed.
Posted by bherm1988
Shreveport, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
2755 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:55 pm to
LINK

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Magnolia Heights lineman committed to the Tigers during a July visit and signed a financial aid agreement with LSU in early August. Per NCAA rules, the agreement allows schools to have unlimited contact with prospects planning to enroll early at an institution. However, according to his father, LSU isn't going to act upon the agreement in case his son changes his mind.


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"LSU is not using it because if Matt was to change his mind they would have to report it," he said. As of now, Womack's father says he is son is "still all LSU" but doesn't rule out the possibility of the offensive tackle visiting the Crimson Tide again this season.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 3:59 pm
Posted by AdamDeMamp
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:56 pm to
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Much like the Baylor situation, this has nothing to do with the NCAA. This punishment was enforced by the SEC. Creating a straw man doesn't change the fact that LSU broke the rules. Play by the rules and there are no issues


The FAA comes from and was created by the NCAA. I agree. If there are rules in place, they should be followed. Taking away the use of the FAA since that was "violated" then fine. Taking away 20+ evaluation days on top of that is B.S.

Like I said, there are no standard penalties in place. The SEC/NCAA is a joke when it comes out to handing out penalties. Some items are investigated while others are not.
Posted by HailFreezusOver
Oxford
Member since Sep 2014
6223 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:57 pm to
I'm sure coach Yaw yaw went over to Senatobia to get one more crack at Womack now that he was on the LSU team, but Womack was already solid on Alabama and the womacks could have told Alabama exactly what went down and when. And then ole lane went ahead and notified the proper people at the Ncaa as he is well versed in rule violation.


Of course this is pure speculation
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:58 pm to
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You can't fricking read a kid's mind in the future. Get rid of that stupid FAA agreement if this dumbass rule remains


There is no problem if the schools follows the same contact rules in place for kids that don't sign a FAA.
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25651 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

We did play by the rules. How is it our fault the fat frick did not honor is commitment. The rule she be written to where the school is penalized if they then pull the offer after the FAA is signed.

As I said this is fricked up. No way, no how do I see where LSU has committed ANY type of violation. frick... y'all were playing by the rules as everyone understood them to be...
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29258 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:59 pm to
Karma is a bitch. Whoever pulled this bullshite move is going to get theirs.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:59 pm to
LSU should tell the SEC where to kiss it.

This is ridiculous. If the NCAA has a problem with it, let the SEC come after us.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 4:00 pm
Posted by Puck82
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23648 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

There is no problem if the schools follows the same contact rules in place for kids that don't sign a FAA.


You keep fricking saying this but the fact remains the kid did sign the FAA
Posted by SFVtiger
Member since Oct 2003
4275 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 4:00 pm to
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There is no problem if the schools follows the same contact rules in place for kids that don't sign a FAA.


that's the only option. no way you could ever know for sure a kid won't flip. I'd never use the relaxed contact rules if a violation depends on what someone else does.
Posted by HailFreezusOver
Oxford
Member since Sep 2014
6223 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 4:00 pm to
LSU offered him the paperwork ...

He didnt download the scholarship himself and send it in...

LSU took a risk to get more contact and secure the player. And it worked on 4/5 of the early enrollees it sounds like. But they should have continued with minimal contact with the recruit. I guarantee Coach O was not versed in this rule, and he took his hummer down to Tobie Town and ripped his shirt off in front of the womacks and challenged them to fight... ( would not have been the first time Coach O did any of this)


Yaw Yaw .. ncaa sanctions
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 4:00 pm to
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We did play by the rules

clearly you don't understand the rules.

You can have unlimited contact provided a kid signs. He did not. You therefore broke the rules. You obviously should have followed the normal contact rules until you were sure.

Womack was taking visits all fall and went to multiple Bama home games and an Ole Miss game. In fact he went to Bama for their first game of the year. At what point do you think he was solid? Why on earth would you ignore the normal contact rules for a prospect like that?
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29258 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 4:01 pm to
kid flips to another school and the school HE signed FAA papers with gets violations?

unreal
Posted by The Yetty
Member since Feb 2005
12542 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 4:01 pm to
I understand that LSU violated the rules of contact, as they are written. However, there is no advantage in having unlimited contact with a player who has secured full financial aid with said University when he ultimately signs elsewhere. The purpose of the FAA is to limit the circumstances where a scholarship is pulled by the University late in the recruitment process.
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