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re: When is the last time an SEC team won their football division 3 straight years?

Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:53 pm to
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I don't think division rings should be made to begin with.



well thats one thing we agree on.
Posted by Brageous
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:56 pm to
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shut up mizzoukills wow east champs tell me you y'all win the sec till then



what the frick language is this? ^^^
Posted by boxedlunch
Member since May 2012
484 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:58 pm to
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Surely you geniuses can use Wikipedia.

The NCAA was founded in 1910.


As the NCAA was founded in 1906, you've provided an excellent example of why I don't use it and don't trust people that do.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 6:33 pm to
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Korin answered the question as asked. Why give him grief if the original question was not clear. Just say "played in the CCG", if that's what really was meant. Don't start claiming that the fact he quoted was not a fact.


We all know what he was asking. He wasn't asking about unknown split division titles. They may technically be titles, but everyone knows the team that goes to Atlanta is considered the division winner.
Posted by boxedlunch
Member since May 2012
484 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 6:38 pm to
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We all know what he was asking. He wasn't asking about unknown split division titles. They may technically be titles, but everyone knows the team that goes to Atlanta is considered the division winner.


My first question was whether he meant division winners or CCG representatives, so I don't suppose everybody did know. It's my opinion that only those who don't know the difference and are therefore uninformed wouldn't wonder the same thing.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 6:44 pm to
???
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 6:49 pm to
Thanks for this thread. It has opened my eyes, and I have seen that LSU fans are hypocrites.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12261 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:03 pm to
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My first question was whether he meant division winners or CCG representatives, so I don't suppose everybody did know. It's my opinion that only those who don't know the difference and are therefore uninformed wouldn't wonder the same thing.


The CCG representative is the division winner. If the division is split and and the other team gets a trophy, then fine, but they're not recognized as the division winner. I'm just saying as far as the team that really won the division.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 8:09 pm
Posted by boxedlunch
Member since May 2012
484 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:14 pm to
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The CCG representative is the division winner. If the division is split and and the other team gets a trophy, then fine, but they're not recognized as the division winner. I'm just saying as far as the team that really won the division.



You see, this is the problem here. The team that ties and doesn't go to the CCG is also the division winner. Korin knows that, I know that and that's why we'd view it different from someone like you who doesn't know it.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:16 pm to
On a side note, the Tennessee website has 1993 listed as co-division winning year for us due to bamas forfeit. That turns the bama game from a tie to a win, thus making both UF and UT 7-1 in conference.

Either way, the site lists the co-winning years, but does not count them as "division winning years" unless we went to the title game
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12261 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:23 pm to
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who doesn't know it


That's the thing, I do know it. I'm aware that teams have finished with matching SEC records and they award co-champions. I'm also aware that the team that wins head to head is the real division winner.

Hell, even UTs official site lists the co-champion years, but doesn't count them as division winning years unless we were the East representative.
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3154 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:50 pm to
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We don't go by Ole Miss rules


What about Auburn which claims some SEC West co-championships (as second seed) but not others? They don't claim their 2005 co-title, for whatever reason:

This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 11:53 pm
Posted by boxedlunch
Member since May 2012
484 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:54 pm to
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That's the thing, I do know it. I'm aware that teams have finished with matching SEC records and they award co-champions. I'm also aware that the team that wins head to head is the real division winner.

Hell, even UTs official site lists the co-champion years, but doesn't count them as division winning years unless we were the East representative.


Okay, if you do know it, why are you confused about somebody correctly answering what is an ambiguous question in a manner opposite in what you would have chosen.
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3154 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:57 pm to
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Hell, even UTs official site lists the co-champion years, but doesn't count them as division winning years unless we were the East representative.


Stop claiming the 1989 SEC co-title then.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12261 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:01 pm to
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Stop claiming the 1989 SEC co-title then.


You're aware that was a different system, right?

I mean, AU, bama and UT all finished with 6-1 SEC records. Tennessee finishing the highest in the polls
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 9:05 pm
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3154 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:14 pm to
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Tennessee finishing the highest in the polls


So what? UT lost to Bama that year. You said so yourself that a team that loses shouldn't claim a co-title over a team that beat it. You've painted yourself into a corner here.

Don't worry. Auburn lost to LSU in '88 and still claims an SEC title for that year too. They don't even have the decency to refer to it as a CO-title either.

Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12261 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:02 pm to
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So what? UT lost to Bama that year. You said so yourself that a team that loses shouldn't claim a co-title over a team that beat it. You've painted yourself into a corner here. Don't worry. Auburn lost to LSU in '88 and still claims an SEC title for that year too. They don't even have the decency to refer to it as a CO-title either.


What part of different system don't you understand?

Surely, you're not this dumb. Tennessee beat Auburn. Auburn beat Alabama. Alabama beat Tennessee. There were no divisions

That's what you call a 3 way tie. Do you understand?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/27/15 at 4:27 am to
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The CCG representative is the division winner. If the division is split and and the other team gets a trophy, then fine, but they're not recognized as the division winner. I'm just saying as far as the team that really won the division.

Maybe you should take it up with the SEC?
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12261 posts
Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:59 am to
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Maybe you should take it up with the SEC?


I was referring to the public. Hell, UT doesn't recognize our co-division years that we didn't represent the East.
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