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re: I'm actually starting to think Anderson will be gone after this season.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 7:55 pm to the808bass
Posted on 2/22/15 at 7:55 pm to the808bass
I have hesitated to comment on these threads much. I was not in favor of this hire, and was told my comments at the time were overly harsh toward KA. But, he is our coach and therefore I want him to be successful. I want to be wrong in my early concerns about KA as the coach.
Sadly, my early concerns have borne out. He seems out of touch and in over his head. I don't have confidence in his ability to turn things around. That said, he is a "freshman" coach. I believe he should, and will, get at least one more year. And as long as he is our coach, I hope for his success. This is going to be a long road, folks. Long.
Sadly, my early concerns have borne out. He seems out of touch and in over his head. I don't have confidence in his ability to turn things around. That said, he is a "freshman" coach. I believe he should, and will, get at least one more year. And as long as he is our coach, I hope for his success. This is going to be a long road, folks. Long.
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Posted on 2/22/15 at 8:17 pm to JesusQuintana
quote:Fuller would have been a better reach hire than KA
This part I'm not so sure. Like who?
Posted on 2/22/15 at 9:07 pm to MIZ_COU
Well, it seems as if I would have been a better hire at this point.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 12:52 am to jafo
I'm not totally dismissing the race factor, but personally I think the problem is KA isn't able to command the respect of these players because he is a career D-II coach who hasn't shown his worth on the D1 level. These players had no idea who the hell this guy even was when we hired him and when they googled him they saw that he was coach at some middle of america D2 school. I think it simply boils down to the fact that many of the players, and maybe even Fuller do not respect Anderson as a basketball coach.
That being said, it's quite obvious that this isn't the team we saw against Illinois, Ok State, and LSU. Something after that happened, whether it was discipline or any other reason you want to speculate. It's not that the team is this bad...it's that KA has lost the locker room (not blaming him necessarily) and the players simply do not care anymore. Look at their effort on the court and you'll see that that is painfully apparent. It's hard to coach a team of players who do not care nor respect you.
Earlier this season I was scared to death about players transferring. Now I'm almost hoping the opposite. If they aren't willing to play for this coach and this school and give it their wholehearted effort, then I hope they save us all the time and transfer away. Kim Anderson deserves his blame, but so do these players.
That being said, it's quite obvious that this isn't the team we saw against Illinois, Ok State, and LSU. Something after that happened, whether it was discipline or any other reason you want to speculate. It's not that the team is this bad...it's that KA has lost the locker room (not blaming him necessarily) and the players simply do not care anymore. Look at their effort on the court and you'll see that that is painfully apparent. It's hard to coach a team of players who do not care nor respect you.
Earlier this season I was scared to death about players transferring. Now I'm almost hoping the opposite. If they aren't willing to play for this coach and this school and give it their wholehearted effort, then I hope they save us all the time and transfer away. Kim Anderson deserves his blame, but so do these players.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 3:02 am to KCM0Tiger
My problem with KA is that you coach to the players strengths and not make them play your system when most of these players aren't your recruits. His system is slow and deliberate and halfcourt. He has a bunch of slashers on this team and not halfcourt players and outside shooters. Wait until you have your recruits, because they should be guys that fit your system.
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Posted on 2/23/15 at 6:47 am to jafo
What I am trying to say is, how can anyone subjectively give an honest eval on a coach in his first year with obvious disciplinary problems and lack of execution of plays, defense and scoring. It's the trifecta. It's why they are where they are at. I don't have figures in front of me, but shooting is horrible. Free throws horrible. Turnovers due to inep playing. Failure to penetrate to the basket. This is a two fold problem being less appearances at the free throw line. Failure to have any post up presence. All these things are things who require the players to execute. Again, what happens if half of these are reveresed? Games are closer, some may be wins. So, if these kids are ad talented as has been said, and they are failing to execute the Three phases, then there is obviously something else going on. KA may be a d2 coach, but he has also won d2 at it's highest level. It's not like he came from grammar school ranks of BB coaches.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 6:58 am to jafo
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how can anyone subjectively give an honest eval on a coach in his first year with obvious disciplinary problems and lack of execution of plays, defense and scoring
I somewhat agree. It's impossible to say what's really going on with the team. It's that bad. It's like getting your 5 year old's art project and you're like "What is it?"
Unfortunately, we should have a whole new team next year to see if it's the players or the coach. If we have mass defections, I do not want to hear "These players can execute either!"
Posted on 2/23/15 at 7:21 am to Zou brownmajic
His team last year averaged 80 ppg. Wouldn't say his system is slow.
He's even said that his goal for future teams is to average around 75 a game. This team just doesn't have the offensive skill talent to do that. And yes maybe he hadn't adapted, although he has said in interviews that he has changed the offense twice to get players the ball in their sweet spots.
He's even said that his goal for future teams is to average around 75 a game. This team just doesn't have the offensive skill talent to do that. And yes maybe he hadn't adapted, although he has said in interviews that he has changed the offense twice to get players the ball in their sweet spots.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:37 am to wubilli
I'm not going to quite go as far to blame race on the coaching situation...but I do see Fuller moving on after this season. On his part, it would be in his interests to get some of these players to become discontent and move on with him.
I knew this season wasn't going to be good...but honestly, Missouri basketball should never be worse than .500 in any given season. You can blame it on youth or whatever, but last time I checked, Freshman still get the same amount of points for a made shot as a senior.
If we don't see a large leap forward next year, I think you have to cut the dead weight and move on without KA. Go get Gregg Marshall and pay him whatever he wants. We will make an extra 5mil from SECN revenue.
I knew this season wasn't going to be good...but honestly, Missouri basketball should never be worse than .500 in any given season. You can blame it on youth or whatever, but last time I checked, Freshman still get the same amount of points for a made shot as a senior.
If we don't see a large leap forward next year, I think you have to cut the dead weight and move on without KA. Go get Gregg Marshall and pay him whatever he wants. We will make an extra 5mil from SECN revenue.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:55 am to 5thTiger
They already tried to get Marshall. The problem with that is you'd have to pay him such a ridiculous number (think 5M per) and then what do you do with Pinkel? The basketball coach is not going to make more than the football coach. So now you have to bump Pinkel to probably 6M.
Just not going to happen. We need the SECN money to find improvements for the football program.
Just not going to happen. We need the SECN money to find improvements for the football program.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 1:36 pm to jafo
Unfortunately if we don't get a couple breaks we also lose to LSU, Elon, and SEMO. I think there may be some disciplinary issues on this team but I also have been told KA does not have the best personality to deal with young people either. A lot of this falls back on KA.
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What I am trying to say is, how can anyone subjectively give an honest eval on a coach in his first year with obvious disciplinary problems and lack of execution of plays, defense and scoring. It's the trifecta. It's why they are where they are at. I don't have figures in front of me, but shooting is horrible. Free throws horrible. Turnovers due to inep playing. Failure to penetrate to the basket. This is a two fold problem being less appearances at the free throw line. Failure to have any post up presence. All these things are things who require the players to execute. Again, what happens if half of these are reveresed? Games are closer, some may be wins. So, if these kids are ad talented as has been said, and they are failing to execute the Three phases, then there is obviously something else going on. KA may be a d2 coach, but he has also won d2 at it's highest level. It's not like he came from grammar school ranks of BB coaches.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 1:39 pm to 5thTiger
Unless he is going on to Alcorn State or Furman there aren't many schools out there that would want any of our players. I think we will lose some players but I don't see many schools lining up for them. Especially after the way we have played and the fact that there are issues with several butting heads with the coach.
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I'm not going to quite go as far to blame race on the coaching situation...but I do see Fuller moving on after this season. On his part, it would be in his interests to get some of these players to become discontent and move on with him.
I knew this season wasn't going to be good...but honestly, Missouri basketball should never be worse than .500 in any given season. You can blame it on youth or whatever, but last time I checked, Freshman still get the same amount of points for a made shot as a senior.
If we don't see a large leap forward next year, I think you have to cut the dead weight and move on without KA. Go get Gregg Marshall and pay him whatever he wants. We will make an extra 5mil from SECN revenue.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 6:57 pm to jafo
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What I am trying to say is, how can anyone subjectively give an honest eval on a coach in his first year with obvious disciplinary problems and lack of execution of plays, defense and scoring
You just evaluated him to a "T".
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